Annoying aspects of Plasma 6

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Since updating to Plasma 6, there are a few things that are really annoying.

First, the bottom bar doesn’t always hide, preventing to see things displayed in the bottom of apps. It seems kind of random when it hides or not.

Second, maximized apps, the only way to reduce them is the tiny little icon in the upper-left! Went from dragging, to double-clicking, to only having the icon. I have to say the Garuda experience degraded a bit since latte-docks went out, and never recovered that experience.

Third… since Plasma 6 update, I’ve seen a few freezes, where even META+PSC schorcuts don’t work, and all I can do is a hard power off. It didn’t happen before.

Fourth, the date in the top bar, both my internal display and TV are in 1080p; if I configure text size on TV to be the same size as app name, then when switching on internal display, the text displays huge?? Why such discrepency

No deal-breaker here, but these things are annoying and stack up.

Inxi

System:
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clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-cachyos
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wm: kwin_x11 with: krunner vt: 2 dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda base: Arch Linux
Machine:
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date: 08/20/2021
Battery:
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Sensors:
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Garuda (2.6.26-1):
System install date:     2021-11-24
Last full system update: 2024-04-26
Is partially upgraded:   No
Relevant software:       snapper NetworkManager mkinitcpio
Windows dual boot:       Probably (Run as root to verify)
Failed units:            systemd-networkd-wait-online.service
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Not tiny at all. If you think it’s too small, you can increase its size by changing it in that widget’s settings.

I have some shortcuts issues as well. You need to report them to bugs.kde.org if you think the problem isn’t you.

This Digital Clock widget is maintained by KDE, but if you set to “automatic” the font size in the widget’s settings it will scale based on Top Bar height! Not System Font size.

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“automatic” makes the text way too big; really distracting. It should be same size as app title.

Bottom bar was “dodge windows”, looks like that mode wasn’t dodging very well! Auto-hide should behave as expected.

Freezes… might be difficult to report, without any information on what is actually causing that or when or why. All I know is that I didn’t have that issue before Plasma 6; but it could also be something else.

Reducing the window, remains the fact that aiming over that button takes at least 2 seconds; whereas I used to be able to downsize and move windows in half a second. When you type at 150+ words per minute, 2 seconds is an eternity.

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You haven’t exactly been very specific on what you have tried to troubleshoot this freezing issue. We certainly would need far more details to even hazard a guess at the cause.

Have you checked your logs?

Have you checked your resource usage with htop etc…?

Have you tried logging in using wayland to see if the freezing issue still happens on wayland?

See the FAQ:

Also, do you realize you have a failed service in your garuda-inxi? Try disabling the service that is failing, (see the end of your inxi output).

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Freeze appear very random. Last freeze was after requesting a reboot. Other times when using a random app. Which log should I check next time? It happened about 3 times so far.

Increased the failed service from 2 minutes to 10 minutes, which appears to be the solution… let’s see if that fixes that one

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Then you have to ask KDE for that feature.
In the meantime you can manually change it in its settings and match your app font size. Of course if you change that font size many times for some reason it gets annoying I agree.

How were you doing it?

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With Latte-Docks I move mouse to the top and drag window around, in a split-second. With Plasma 5, move mouse to the top and double click, slightly slower but not that much; just slightly more inconvenient.

Now I need to take a break and go aim somewhere specific, or setup a keyboard shortcut to save time.

Plus if I to to the upper-left too quick, touching the corner, then it opens up the window-switching mode and then it takes even more time to get back to what I was doing.

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We are testing a new widget that allows doing that.
But on some installations the widget loses the title bar completely and you’re stuck with that, so we have not released it until this is fixed, although we have not opened any bug on that yet.

Dragging maxed windows from the Top Panel directly with the mouse is a heartbreaking feature we lost when doing the move from Latter to Plasma Panels, so be assured that when we can release it we will.

It also supports double click, that one seems stable.

In the meantime you can try it out yourself, it’s Application Title Bar

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About the freezes; even Garuda servers completely froze so that might be a kernel issue after all!

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You could perform a search to find out!

Garuda Assitant has an easy way to find errors in your journal log.

It is always like pulling teeth to get direct answers from you @Hanuman .

Well…??? Have you…???

Well…???

Did you even read the guide I linked in the FAQ?

I updated another guide today just for you:

I suggest you do some reading.

Too frustrating dealing with you, I’m out of here.

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It freezes maybe once a week, meanwhile, there’s no way to tell whether wayland or anything would “stop the freeze”. Next time it happens I’ll check the logs.

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One issue per topic. The plasma 6 aspects are taken care of, right?
Open a new topic for the freezes with a detailed description and your garuda-inxi.

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Freezing issues should be discussed in a separate thread.