Off Topic Chit Chat - (Silliness factor 5)

I 100% do that its a bad habit. And no worries. I need to try to be better aware of it. As I type like a mad man. haha

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For me its KDEOS. I know people are all for steamos. but kde os has a real chance to make it into big box stores on lenovos and hp’s etc. And that could be the gateway where people are like hey whats garuda linux and give it a go.

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I’m offended you didn’t include a copilot logo :joy:

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This one NEEDS to be in the Voting list at the end, this right here is a BANGER! :sunglasses:

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Look who changed their toon. Reassessing Wayland

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I mean, I remember reading his post he mentioned about Wayland when it was published. To me, they were all valid points (even if worded a tad harsh lol), and in this blog as well, also all valid points. I used to get SO frustrated (sometimes still do lol) with little quirks and bothers in Wayland, small things I couldn’t do. Some still both me, but waaaaay less than they used to. I’m comfortable now using Wayland by default even though, since I’m stuck with an NVIDIA GPU, driver compatibility can be frustrating. Wayland is definitely far better than it used to be.

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I learned something new today, thanks for explaining that!

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Really? How so?

Media is defined as: The public institutions that report the news, such as newspapers, magazines, radio, and television, collectively; the news media.

Which Telegram and Signal are capable of doing.

Social Media is defined as: Interactive forms of media that allow users to interact with and publish to each other, generally by means of the Internet.

I can publish and interact with eachother by means of the Internet using Signal and Telegram.

How is that not social media? What am I missing? :face_with_monocle:

Let’s try that again til the advent of Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YilTok, etc the word social media didn’t exist or was rarely used.

I really don’t want to continue this conversation. Lets stop here, since I shouldn’t have been involved on it.

I trained on the IBM 370/135 and mostly in the USA then they ran Cobol for the US insurance industry. Those platters of disks kids today would not believe. But I ended up running mostly machine code on HP laser-directed photoplotters running code akin to Fortran but really like a Unix C (n-1). Those were running code copied to tape, then the tape got loaded on the photoplotters. So figure 5-6 hours of sequential data output on to film in a darkroom.

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I think we’re going to take a little timeout here as this thread is for light hearted chit chat.

If you want to discuss contentious issues, do so in the lounge, (within good taste and reason).

I have removed the heated conversations from this thread and relocated them to the lounge.

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You know what is really impressive to me is if targeting advertising is really an issue with most of this, why can’t we give the advertisers the finger print? Why should people have to step into that?

Same goes with digital ID being sold to the public. Well we need digital ID to know who is real and who is AI, or to know what real human made content is and AI made content… Which, ultimately leads to needing a digital ID just to step on the internet. If your serious about this, then why shouldn’t AI be forced to identify itself to us and not us to the system?

You know this article brings some interesting philosophies to the surface that I never thought of before…

I personally don’t believe that prohibition is the answer to really anything. Steve Jobs has really proven that a solution to prohibition is competition. I also understand that people in Europe would disagree with that, and that is fine. I guess what I think a fair solution is, the ability to opt out of targeting advertising should be a clear choice to the user and not just outright banned.

I have personally benefited from targeting advertising in the past when it comes to knowing what engineering products used in instrumentation and electronic circuit design. It has been helpful, but on the other hand, how did the system get that information in the first place? The ability to opt out wasn’t available to simply say no to. Some people people may not have a problem with this, should we remove the choice from them? Is a one size fits all solution really the answer here? If you remove this, are we in fact no better then the advertisers who don’t have bad intent? What about there choices to make products available to the public? Some people may actually want to be targeting for the latest and greatest products (I can’t imagine why, but there are those kinds of people out in the world)

What we need is the ability to disconnect from it, how you implement that solution beats me. Also one of the biggest problems with targeted ads is the ability to change a human beings perceptions. Not everyone in the world has the critical thinking skills or intellectual capacity to be aware or understand how information is precieved and this also has to be known as one of the options.

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In my opinion, the issue of advertising, as we understand it in the classical sense, is just a pretext to distract from the purpose of tracking.
It’s about creating a complete profile of everyone in order to ultimately know more about a person than they know about themselves, thus opening the door to any kind of manipulation.

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The interesting thing about this is, I actually agree with you on your opinion. There is no part in your reply that I actually disagree with. Yes, the system is creating a profile of you in a way where the system knows more about you then you know yourself, no question about it. However, we know this is happening, this happens to us everyday, where we look. It doesn’t have to be even from a digital system. Other human beings do this to each other on a day to do basis. Where the problem is ultimately goes back to “choice”.

You have a choice to allow yourself to be distracted/manipulated or not. We all do in our day to day lives everywhere we go. The question is, do we have an option were we can allow ourselves to be subjected to this or not? I think it is wrong to take away that ability from someone. It’s like we all have a choice to choose good or evil in our lives, we have the right to make a good choice just as well as having the right to make a bad one. Either way we have to live with the consequences of that decision. This is why I don’t want to see prohibition on this issue, I want to see human adaptation and creativity fuel invention to solve the problem, not a force of interference to make that choice for us.

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Interesting stuff…my father use to work for the telephones for the province, Manitoba Telecom Services before Bell Canada bought them up. I use to go with him in the server rooms where all the mainframe systems would be operating in. You get to see all the tape systems and robotic arms move the takes and drums from system to stock storage.

When you take a closer look at what was on the tapes, you would see COBAL on them. Most of the code was used to process bills for land line use, cell phone use, and internet use. Some of the bills were made for other telecom services across Canada as well. Oddly enough most of these systems have still not changed even till today.

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I opened up discover today to check for addon/bottles updates and on the first page i see firedragon. Always nice to see.

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