[Latte Dock] The end of an era (designing a Latte-Dock free alternative dr460nized setup)

Yeah I know what that is, if you mean the borders don’t have the same opacity as the window center?

I’ll check the svgs, maybe I didn’t provide the right ones :frowning:

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Plz overwrite dialogs/background.svgz with this one.

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Here we go, thanks!! :slight_smile:

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Just gave this a go and I think the default presets are great. Awesome work on them ^^
My panels by default ended up slightly bigger than I'd like a by a few pixels, but that was no big deal since the panels were visible. If I didn't like anything, it was easily customisable, and I think it will fit my needs well since I basically used the latte docks more like taskbars than doing super advanced things with them anyways. I find with this one, I prefer it to have a dark translucent background since it doesn't have the rolling expand animation like Latte does.

The only thing I found was that I had to add the netspeed widget, which iirc came default with Latte, or it was asked somewhere whether I wanted to add it? Either way, easy fix as long as you know to add it - I understand it's probably not everyone's cup of tea, but the taskbar looks a bit too empty to me otherwise :slight_smile:

The main things I don't like are the weird glow highlight on the dock (looks atrocious at fast animation speeds) and how hovering on menu options on the top panel is white before I click it (it becomes the custom colour I set when clicked), so it's almost white-on-white... is this a theme-related bug?

Isolated pinning to activities is also a bit buggy :smiley: you can duplicate by trying to pin to a certain activity, only to have it reset to pinning in all activities and spitting out more of the same ones.

This is supposed to be a work activity, and I have double the LibreOffice. Surely that's double the productivity ;D
On my personal activity, it had just one set, where it was supposed to have none.

To get pinning to work properly, the program needs to be opened first before pinning to the current activity. Bit of a hassle but it works.

ugh this edit bug is so annoying, i have to reply to the topic, click edit and then quote the whole post in order to actually edit the post rather than nuke it... T_T

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Thats in fact another widget I removed, though its easy to add back as you said :slight_smile:

Sadly haven’t found a way to alter this, I agree on it looking way too white on hover :sweat_smile: It seems to be theme related, since the Breeze theme gives a much better background on hover (just a bit darker than the top bar).

Yup! Thanks for your feedback, appreciated :slight_smile:

On another note - has anyone played around with this yet? Smooth makes animations smooth af :smiley: It is supposed to increase latency as well, though I haven’t really noticed any of it yet.

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Please keep this as an optional feature :)ㅤ

The Icons-only Task Manager stupid glow effect is not removable AFAIK. Even with a future effect addition on hover it will still keep that darn thing. :frowning:

As for the top panel menu items, should be theme related as mines are purple, the Garuda purple.
I’ll boot up the ISO tonight and see if I get white as well.

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This is cuz the Dr460nized Plasma Theme does not follow color scheme, it has its own scheme. You can see what it uses by looking at the content of the file /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/Dr460nized/colors

Now the very first entry shows:

[Colors:Button]
BackgroundNormal=255,255,255

Which is white!
Change this to whatever you like, say some kind of purple/pink Sweet theme like 210,0,210.

Not sure why it’s using its own scheme but @dr460nf1r3 if you want to change this, and I think you should cuz almost white on white is kinda weird, there are 2 choices:

1- You delete the file colors (it will obvious impact the other 16 color entries in there - someone put that file there for a purpose, I guess)
2- You edit the 1st entry above.

:smiley:

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That’s great! You’re doing nice little edits to the Sweet theme making it much better - of course I’ll be adding it :blush:

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Ohh, I discovered that I was actually using the Sweet plasma style rather than Dr460nized (I don't think I've seen it before, so it must've come with the Dr460nized-next package?). I was stumped for a few minutes wondering why the changes hadn't come into effect ^^; so turns out, the panel colour stuff is influenced by the Plasma style. FGD clearly mentioned it, but I didn't know what the plasma style actually did until now LOL

Once I made the mentioned edit and switched to it, the highlight colour is now not white ^^
Interesting choice of Sweet to make the button background colour white.

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Do we know if KDE team has any plans to incorporate some of the features of Latte into panels? Seems to me that this would be ideal as Latter dock was used by many others and its lack is felt.

In fact I'll suggest that the great work being done by the devs here may be contributed back into upstream KDE and this way it become available to all as well as reducing dependencies. This of course depends on KDE itself accepting the patches.

:smiley: Let’s take a short step back which would benefit everyone new to this thread and anyone who doesn’t know much, yet, about styling.

Yes in order to use the Garuda theming you have to either select Dr460nized in GLOBAL THEME or PLASMA STYLE. I suggest to start with the Global Theme so you have everything set as it would be in an ISO (maybe some tweaks will be done until the ISO is released, which is the purpose of this thread anyway).

Make sure you have killed Latte-Dock

killall latte-dock

otherwise both Plasma Panel and Latte-Dock will overlap.
From there you get the whole theme and color scheme.

The Plasma Style more specifically, which contains config for Garuda’s new Panel/Dock, is located in /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme/Dr460nized/
Now one important thing, except for testing purposes, do not edit anything in that folder. There are a few reasons why but mostly it will get overwritten on your next system update whenever there is an update to that package from the Garuda repo.

If you wish to play around with Plasma theme, either cuz you are testing different colors or something, or cuz you want to hack into Dr460nized theme and change some configs to have your own that you will keep, I can tell you how to do it safely. But for testing a few changes you can edit in the /usr folder. Nothing prevents you from taking a copy of that Theme folder before. :slight_smile:

Well I already created 2 enhancements at bugs.kde.org, one of which got immediately integrated and is available in the kde-git packages, the other they redirected me to some existing feature that doesn’t do exactly what we were looking for (transparency - there are workarounds but all have compromises). All of this is detailed in previous posts in this thread.
I know KDE devs are improving the Panel constantly and include more and more features. Multi-monitors and stuff like that is apparently in the pipeline but it’s not an easy one.
Some features will probably not get integrated or are not in the pipeline at the moment, like pixel-by-pixel icon launcher scaling, zoom icon launchers on mouse hover and many more (there’s a bunch in Latte I have never used). Plasma Panel will be different than Latte and I have no idea where KDE devs want it to be in 5 years from now. But I don’t think they will “copy” Latte.

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Changed it to 197,14,210, which is also used as highlight color! Now it looks pretty good, eyes won’t get burned by looking at the buttons anymore :laughing:
The update has been pushed, so feel free to try it out :slight_smile:

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And LED pixels won’t either. LOL

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I didn't realize there were as much changes until now :exploding_head: I think we are quite close to have it in presentable state :smiley:

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Until yesterday I was testing using the ISO provided in this thread, which has garuda-dr460nized-next pre-installed. That's fine for people who install from ISO.

Now I tested on my main machine with already installed system by paru -S garuda-dr460nized-next to see what would happen. All went flawless!

Better than I expected, in fact. It even kills Latte-Dock when you switch to Dr460nized Global Theme, which makes sense but until now I didn't realize it. :smiley:

Launcher icons on the Dock are a great size on my 31.5" 4K monitor.
Top panel is great too for most people I guess. It's OSXish like in size but I realized since I use widgets in that panel that require it to be bigger in order to see properly, I always use bigger, that explains my comments from the past. So no need to take care, sizes are great. :smiley:

I'm still testing some other tweaks to see if they may apply. Until now it's inconclusive so considering Plasma Theming limitations, I believe the Dr460nized Global Theme is already well built.
Great job! :+1:

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Does the new setup use KDE's Active Window Control/Global Menu widgets to achieve the effect used earlier by Latte? Sorry if this is incorrect info.

Did I read earlier in the thread correctly that the new ISO will come out February-ish? :slight_smile:

That is correct,

however, the year has not yet been determined. :smiley:
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Okay thanks!

Excited to try it! I currently have Sway on my desktop, but looking forward to trying out the new ISO with Plasma panels!
Trying to figure out how I can start contributing/helping with Wayland for Plasma. I'm a huge fan of Wayland, just hope things can start moving forward with it.

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