The GNOME Way

[dr460nf1r3]

I think the most important thing here is to ensure the extensions used are well maintained, as we have already experienced what it is like to provide a lot of extensions for the default desktop experience in the past

GNOME manual intervention required (in preparation to new release)

Hello guys! So in preparation to our new release I have removed all extensions from the garuda-gnome-settings package which causes GNOME look kinda default after updating to the new version. This has to be done on all distributions running the latest software due to GNOMEs sh*t policy regarding extension support. Dont worry, this wont have to be repeated soon. If you want to keep the extensions until they break (and remove them yourself if they do) there is an easy way: https…

GNOME extensions removed due to being broken by release 40 (yet again)

Hey GNOME users! There is sadly no way we can postpone this much longer, GNOME extensions are broken yet again by the new release so they had to be removed. For the people who dont know whats going on, its not the first time that this happened… last year it was quite the same: The new release, GNOME 40 was said to enhance extension support but hey, almost everything broken again But why do they break you might ask yourself? I think this discussion explains it better than I could…

[psi-jack]

@dr460nf1r3

I think the most important thing here is to ensure the extensions used are well maintained, as we have already experienced what it is like to provide a lot of extensions for the default desktop experience in the past

Yes, egggsnactly. And some extensions, at least, have been maintained for quite a while. Heck, the appindicator one is in Arch Linux’s community repository not AUR, so that tells you something there.

[RodneyCK]

@psi-jack

I’d rather, personally, include Thunderbird, or Betterbird…

Not a gnome fan here personally, more like anti-gnome-gnome nemesis, but I scour the threads for gem-mentions like this one. I have never heard of “Betterbird.” Is it better, safe, secure in comparison to standard Thunderbird, and would you recommend it over standard t-bird?

[Bro]

Thanksgiving recipes. Ya 'll are making me hungry with all the bird talk.

[RodneyCK]

Hold out @Bro man, only a few more days and you too will have a Betterbird!!

[cwantenoise]

I can always tell someone's grasp of the Linux state of mind based on how much they use GNOME and/or any of its meager offerings. Garuda should trash its gnome variant, it's essentially an insult to Arch Linux and Linux as a whole.

[Colin]

As a software suggestion, hows about removing Gnome Screenshot and replacing it with ksnip? It's lightweight and functional - I used it for years on my previous distro, and I'm now using it on Gnome.

Here's Why Ksnip is My New Favorite Linux Screenshot Tool in 2022

[SGS]

Just use Flameshot

[BluishHumility]

I agree that Flameshot is the best snipping/screenshotting tool, although I do find it annoying that on Gnome you have to respond to that prompt every time to allow the screen to be shared with Flameshot. They have a pinned issue open for it on their page now:

Take Screenshot on Gnome without Prompt

So hopefully that will be fixed soon. But other than that, Flameshot is just so tremendously useful with the built-in stuff you can add to the snip (which SGS illustrated at least half of them ).

@cwantenoise

I can always tell someone’s grasp of the Linux state of mind based on how much they use GNOME and/or any of its meager offerings. Garuda should trash its gnome variant

How’s the weather up there on your high horse?

The whole purpose of this thread is to discuss how to make the Garuda Gnome spin better. It’s fine to dislike the Gnome DE–to be honest it’s not my favorite either–but what you have contributed to the thread is unhelpful and overwhelmingly negative.

“If you can’t say something nice, don’t say nothin’ at all.”

-Thumper

[Colin]

I prefer....

[psi-jack]

@RodneyCK

Not a gnome fan here personally, more like anti-gnome-gnome nemesis, but I scour the threads for gem-mentions like this one. I have never heard of “Betterbird.” Is it better, safe, secure in comparison to standard Thunderbird, and would you recommend it over standard t-bird?

It’s got modifications to Thunderbird to make it “better”, like they have a functional vertical view pane that works… Not as good as what Thunderbird showed a few months ago for the coming 104, but it’s basically Thunderbird slightly improved, and many of their improvements end up in Thunderbird anyway.

So, yes, I use it, and I recommend it, and it just so happends to also be in Chaotic-AUR as well. So, it’s not just me that uses it.

[psi-jack]

@cwantenoise

I can always tell someone’s grasp of the Linux state of mind based on how much they use GNOME and/or any of its meager offerings. Garuda should trash its gnome variant, it’s essentially an insult to Arch Linux and Linux as a whole.

This is just being rude and annoying. Please do not jump into a topic ABOUT something, only to suggest so thoroughly against it as a whole.

[psi-jack]

@Colin

As a software suggestion, hows about removing Gnome Screenshot and replacing it with ksnip? It’s lightweight and functional - I used it for years on my previous distro, and I’m now using it on Gnome.

Hmmm… Use K-software in Gnome? But…

Anyway. One doesn’t remove Gnome Screenshot, it’s literally built-in. And it does actually quite a really nice job, even video. I’ve used all of these features in fact.

Though, if i were to replace it, it’d be what I was using under XFCE while GNOME 42 was having issues, Flameshot. It’s also Qt-based, but it’s basically what I used to be similar to GNOME’s screenshot feature while not in GNOME.

[psi-jack]

First screenshot idea time!

In this, I'm basically using appindicator, arch-update, and one other extension, frippery move-clock, to which I'm asking Ron, the developer of it, where they have, or could they have a git repo provided so that it can be included into AUR, and thus Chaotic-AUR, as it is GPL.

That, combined with a CSS theme mod I did to make the appindicator icon spacing less, to fit better.

Oh, and a cursor theme, Volantes. Looks nice, somewhat different, not gaudy....

Thoughts?

[RodneyCK]

Thank you. I will install it and give it a whirl. Appreciate it.

[Cannabis]

@Bro

I think it’s awesome someone is taking an interest in the GNOME DE. (It has been my go-to from time-to-time but not this minute.)

Same here. I used Gnome for years. Since the Garuda plunge (1.5 years ago appx) I’ve used Kde (dr60nized) flavor Garuda.

So now I’ve gotten accustomed to KDE OOTB Garuda style and now I don’t have to install a lot of extensions, for instance, with KDE compared to gnome.

I’m Pro-Gnome-and very Pro-Dra60nized.

I think I will install soon a Garuda-Gnome on another computer and see what I think.

Thanks!

BTW, Smplayer FTW!

[Colin]

@psi-jack

Anyway. One doesn’t remove Gnome Screenshot, it’s literally built-in.

I didn’t mean the new screenshot tool which is accessed from…

…the old version of the program is in the app menu - this is the screenshot tool I was talking about.

I can’t screenshot the icon because I removed it and replaced it with ksnip.

[psi-jack]

@Cannabis

Same here. I used Gnome for years. Since the Garuda plunge (1.5 years ago appx) I’ve used Kde (dr60nized) flavor Garuda.

I used KDE since pre 1.0.0 days, all the way through early 5.x. 4.x was bad, 5.x for me was worse. I needed a change, and so I went to XFCE a while which was always in my back pocket, then I finally tried out GNOME 3 after some specific talk with a Gnome PR person, describing it to me more, whic did help.

Since then, I’ve stuck with GNOME and enjoyed it’s strong reliability and stability and things just work, rendering works, most of the time, properly, and it gets fixed quickly when it doesn’t. The only issue I ever had with GNOME, to-date, is 42’s issues with DisplayPort-connected monitors. Whether it was direct DP to DP, or DP to HDMI, it had issues screen saving and maintaining multiple monitors, and apps on those monitors. 43 restored this issue (but caused some small issues in rendering in Xorg, which is being fixed).

I’ll always keep XFCE in my back pocket, as I always have. But I like GNOME more, and so, here I am.

@Cannabis

So now I’ve gotten accustomed to KDE OOTB Garuda style and now I don’t have to install a lot of extensions, for instance, with KDE compared to gnome.

KDE has extensions, and they can make/break as well. They’re just different, simply put. One thing I always miss about KDE though is the ability if window-rules, out of EVERYTHING KDE has, window-rules is the one thing I actually miss. Working with devilspie2 is abysmal at best, it’s based on the window content and not the decoration, so getting things pristine is a juggling act every single time.

@Cannabis

I think I will install soon a Garuda-Gnome on another computer and see what I think.

Wait until the updates are in, is my suggestion. I installed the current edition in it’s current state it’s in now, and it’s not in the best of shape, IMHO. I’m hoping to get that cleaned up sooner rather than later.

@Cannabis

BTW, Smplayer FTW!

Celluloid is amazing too. When it’s not being bugged by rendering issues that’s currently happening with it and Calculator (windows that resize themselves). Along with Clapper, which is pretty decent.

[psi-jack]

@Colin

I didn’t mean the new screenshot tool which is accessed from…

Ahhh yes, perfect! I was not aware of that, yeah, that’s from gnome 41, and seems to be left behind. It’s from gnome-screenshot so an easy change to remove from the installation, I think.

[Bro]

@psi-jack

I used KDE since pre 1.0.0 days, all the way through

@psi-jack

I finally tried out GNOME 3

@psi-jack

and so I went to XFCE a while

There are quite a number of users in this forum who have similar longevity in Linux experience. Others may or may not, but the quality of their work is very illuminating. Those two things, probably more than others, are what attracts me here. When I find a place with this much expertise abounding, it takes on a “home” type feeling.

It also can be a bit exciting at times.