Steam not starting; probably mesa/llvm issues

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Hi all,

I've recently updated my system, and Steam now crashes on startup. I suspect this is because my mesa is built against the wrong llvm. Before I get too into the details, here's what I think is the relevant section of the error I get on trying to launch Steam:

Loaded SDL version 3.0.0-765-gc4db0725e
OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display
OpenGL GLX extension not supported by displaysrc/steamUI/Main.cpp (425) : Assertion Failed: Error: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display
src/steamUI/Main.cpp (425) : Assertion Failed: Error: OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display
assert_20230214172943_6.dmp[5045]: Uploading dump (out-of-process)
/tmp/dumps/assert_20230214172943_6.dmp
Gtk-Message: 17:29:43.388: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: 17:29:43.389: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"

I've got the [mesa-git](https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unofficial_user_repositories#mesa-git) repo enabled, so I've actually got two llvm-libs-git available in Octopi: one from chaotic-aur and one from mesa-git. I first ran into this a month or so ago, and managed to get everything working by just installing the mesa-git version instead of the newer chaotic-aur version with sudo pacman -Sd mesa-git/llvm-libs-git. I then proceeded to leave my system precariously balanced like that and didn't update anything for weeks, because I knew I'd have to fix stuff and I wanted to play games on my new machine instead.

So now I'm trying to make things right. When I try to install the mesa-git version instead of the chaotic-aur version, I now get the following errors:

╰─λ sudo pacman -Sd mesa-git/llvm-libs-git
[sudo] password for kestrel:
warning: downgrading package llvm-libs-git (17.0.0_r451593.5dc34eb379f4-1 => 16.0.0_r448555.dca40e3288f4-1)
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies)
:: installing llvm-libs-git (16.0.0_r448555.dca40e3288f4-1) breaks dependency 'llvm-libs' required by openmp
:: installing llvm-libs-git (16.0.0_r448555.dca40e3288f4-1) breaks dependency 'llvm-libs' required by vulkan-swrast

It looks like llvm-libs-git depends on openmp, which depends on tensorflow, which depends on llvm-libs-git, which is a pleasant little circle. vulkan-swrast looks like it replaces vulkan, and is used by lots of stuff, so that's not an option to remove.

So I guess I have a few questions:

  1. What's the best way to approach this? Should I just try to remove the mesa-git repo, and if so, how do I do that?
  2. If removing mesa-git doesn't seem like the way to go, what other avenues should I look at?
  3. How can I check the llvm/mesa versions in my system to make sure that mesa is built against the version of llvm that I have?

It's probably worth noting that I had to go for the mesa-git repo because I've got a 7900XT, which a month ago was shiny and new enough that I needed to use mesa-git to get support for it. I'm hopeful that all the changes I need have trickled into slightly more standard repos.

Thanks!

EDIT: It appears that someone has moved this to the Unsupported Software category. That's fine, but I'd love to know about what's unsupported and what's not, as well. Is this purely because of the mesa-git stuff, or is chaotic-aur also unsupported?

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That is a very broadly applicable category for basically anything that is not specifically related to Garuda packages or settings. It is not meant to imply you should not be using Steam, or AUR packages, or anything like that.

You can give this a shot, just to see if it gives a different result. Open /etc/pacman.conf, find the [mesa-git] entry in the REPOSITORIES section, and comment out all of the lines by adding a # as the first character in the line.

It is possible you have simply run into a kernel bug. This is fairly common with new hardware (new GPUs or network cards seem especially prone), and if that’s all it is there isn’t much for it but to wait for a fix to come down from upstream. Test some other kernels and see if you have any better luck getting Steam running.

The LTS kernel is a fairly standard suggestion for alternative kernels because it is so stable, although with super new hardware sometimes it might not work because it is still back on 5.15. Worth a shot though. Also try the mainline kernel, which is a RC kernel so will have the most recent kernel patches (watch out, it has the most recent kernel bugs too :wink:).

First bring your system fully up to date with garuda-update, then install the new kernels and headers:

sudo pacman -S linux-lts linux-lts-headers linux-mainline linux-mainline-headers

Boot to an alternative kernel in the advanced boot options of the Grub menu.

This thread here someone had some luck getting the 7900 XT working by using the git version of linux-firmware.

sudo pacman -S linux-firmware-git

If that doesn’t help, I would probably switch back to the regular linux-firmware package. Like the mainline kernel, linux-firmware-git will have both the most recent fixes and the most recent bugs.

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Thanks for the response! I've tried out a few of your suggestions:

  • Tried out a few different kernels: linux-zen (which I was using previously), linux-mainline, and linux-drm-next.
  • Commented out the mesa-git repo in /etc/pacman.conf
  • Ran garuda-update a couple of times before and after these changes

I should note that I'm already using linux-firmware-git. I'll try going back to linux-firmware and see if that does the trick. EDIT: it did not do the trick.

I still feel like it's most likely to be that the version of mesa I've got is built against a different version of llvm than I've got installed; switching llvm versions seemed to be what worked for me last time. I'm not sure how to verify which version of llvm my mesa is built against, though.

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I have more clarity on what I'm looking for, I think. I want to do one of these two things:

  1. remove the mesa-git package and replace it with mesa; or
  2. remove the chaotic-aur version of llvm-libs-git and replace it with the mesa-git version

The packages I've got right now are:

  • chaotic-aur/llvm-libs-git: 17.0.0_r451593.5dc34eb379f4-1
  • mesa-git/llvm-libs-git: 16.0.0_r448555.dca40e3288f4-1
  • mesa-git/lib32-llvm-libs-git: 16.0.0_r448555.dca40e3288f4-1
  • mesa-git/mesa-git: 1:23.1.0_devel.166663.fa66c8954e7-1

Unfortunately, installing mesa in place of mesa-git gets me a bunch of broken dependencies, and installing mesa-git/llvm-libs-git in place of chaotic-aur/llvm-libs-git gets me a couple of other broken dependencies. I'm not sure how to resolve those dependencies--is just forcing the install an option? That seems like a Bad Idea, but :person_shrugging:.

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OK, victory! It took messing around with packages, but what I did was:

  • Replace lib32-vulkan-radeon with lib32-vulkan-radeon-git. This removed one of the two dependency problems keeping me from downgrading to mesa-git/llvm-libs-git
  • force the downgrade with sudo pacman -Sdd mesa-git/llvm-libs-git.

The only thing I've done so far is fire up Steam and see that it works, so I'm not sure if other problems will show up with the potentially broken dependency for openmp, or if it will just happily use mesa-git/llvm-libs-git. But I'm cautiously optimistic.

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Nice one, glad you got it working. :+1:

It is generally not advised to force Pacman to do things it doesn’t want to do, but as long as you are comfortable with restoring system snapshots then sometimes it’s worth it to take a little risk. :wink:

If you want Pacman to prefer sourcing the packages from the mesa-git repo instead of the chaotic-aur repo, you can set that up by putting the mesa-git repo above the chaotic-aur repo in /etc/pacman.conf like this:

...

[mesa-git]
Server = https://pkgbuild.com/~lcarlier/$repo/$arch

[chaotic-aur]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/chaotic-mirrorlist

...

If a package you need is available from more than one repo in your list, whichever one is first (top to bottom) will be the one Pacman uses, even if another repo has a more recent version of the package.

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It is generally not advised to force Pacman to do things it doesn’t want to do, but as long as you are comfortable with restoring system snapshots then sometimes it’s worth it to take a little risk. :wink:

I figured that was the case; I generally try to stay away from forcing computers to do things, but yeah, I figured I might as well take advantage of this cool snapshot ability that comes with btrfs.

If you want Pacman to prefer sourcing the packages from the mesa-git repo instead of the chaotic-aur repo, you can set that up by putting the mesa-git repo above the chaotic-aur repo in /etc/pacman.conf like this:

Oh dang, that’s great! I had no idea that was a thing; I’ll have to do that.

So far most stuff seems to be working–with the exception of Cyberpunk, which is the one game I’ve been really hooked on lately. When I fire that up, it just runs slower and slower until it eventually just hangs in the middle of the launch process. It was running like silk before I decided to get the upgrade working, so I’m sure it’s doable–I just need to figure out what’s not configured right.

Appreciate all the help!

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