Plymouth-git, splash kernel param, and boot issues - modsetting?

Hi,
I had posted a plymouth-git issue relating to the boot issues we've been having recently (I'm currently booting without the splash param). It's possible that the plymouth-git issue is related to the nvidia dkms drivers as I seem to recall this boot issue happening after switching to the nvidia driver.

Today, I received a response to my plymouth-git issue suggesting to have modsetting enabled. I haven't gotten clarification but, in digging, it seems that the modsetting could be referring to the drivers for intel video chips and not nvidia. I worry that I'm going to bork my install if I install/enable modsetting. What's the general thoughts here on modsetting? Unrelated to the issue or a possibility?
Thanks,
KB

I am missing your garuda-inxi.

Plymouth is removed by default from all Garuda DE's.
At the end of garuda-update process you got a message about.

At least that's how it was for me. :smiley:

Update notices:
The "splash" (Plymouth) kernel parameter was removed from your GRUB configuration automatically to ensure system stability. Plymouth may be enabled manually again, but it is strongly recommended to keep plymouth disabled.
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This is relating to the issue I was asked to file over at plymouth-git: Plymouth-git and splash boot parameter prevent Garuda from booting completely (#215) · Issues · plymouth / plymouth · GitLab.

Here is the related Garuda topic: System stuck in boot screen

I'm not looking to resolve any plymouth-git issues here, just trying to understand how modsetting is related and is it dangerous to consider in this case.

Just in case, here is the inxi:

System:
Kernel: 6.4.1-zen2-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.1.1
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
root=UUID=75c24d07-a48f-4c81-81f6-21ebf6792316 rw rootflags=subvol=@
quiet quiet rd.udev.log_priority=3 vt.global_cursor_default=0 loglevel=3
ibt=off
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.6 tk: Qt v: 5.15.10 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 2
dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: RAMPAGE IV GENE v: Rev 1.xx
serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 4901
date: 05/15/2014
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Core i7-4930K bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge
gen: core 4 level: v2 built: 2012-15 process: Intel 22nm family: 6
model-id: 0x3E (62) stepping: 4 microcode: 0x42E
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 1.5 MiB desc: 6x256 KiB
L3: 12 MiB desc: 1x12 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3060 high: 3900 min/max: 1200/3900 scaling:
driver: intel_cpufreq governor: performance cores: 1: 1321 2: 1524 3: 3900
4: 3900 5: 1282 6: 3634 7: 3900 8: 3900 9: 3900 10: 3900 11: 1659 12: 3900
bogomips: 81652
Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GA102 [GeForce RTX 3090 Ti] vendor: eVga.com.
driver: nvidia v: 535.54.03 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 530.xx+
status: current (as of 2023-05) arch: Ampere code: GAxxx
process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16
link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:2203
class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 23.1.2
compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: nvidia unloaded: modesetting,nouveau
alternate: fbdev,nv,vesa gpu: nvidia display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3440x1440 s-dpi: 109 s-size: 802x342mm (31.57x13.46")
s-diag: 872mm (34.33")
Monitor-1: DP-0 res: 3440x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109
size: 798x335mm (31.42x13.19") diag: 865mm (34.07") modes: N/A
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 535.54.03 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090
Ti/PCIe/SSE2 direct-render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel C600/X79 series High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1d20
class-ID: 0403
Device-2: NVIDIA GA102 High Definition Audio vendor: eVga.com.
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 02:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:1aef
class-ID: 0403
Device-3: Logitech Blue Snowball driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 5-2.2:4
chip-ID: 046d:0ac9 class-ID: 0300 serial: <filter>
API: ALSA v: k6.4.1-zen2-1-zen status: kernel-api with: aoss
type: oss-emulator tools: N/A
Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.72 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82579V Gigabit Network vendor: ASUSTeK P8P67 Deluxe
driver: e1000e v: kernel port: f040 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:1503
class-ID: 0200
IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 7.51 TiB used: 1.73 TiB (23.0%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 830 Series
size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 3B1Q scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 2TB
size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 3B6Q scheme: GPT
ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Western Digital
model: WD6002FZWX-00GBGB0 size: 5.46 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B
logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
fw-rev: 0A81 scheme: GPT
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 238.17 GiB size: 238.17 GiB (100.00%)
used: 109.07 GiB (45.8%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
used: 576 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
ID-3: /home raw-size: 238.17 GiB size: 238.17 GiB (100.00%)
used: 109.07 GiB (45.8%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 238.17 GiB size: 238.17 GiB (100.00%)
used: 109.07 GiB (45.8%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 238.17 GiB size: 238.17 GiB (100.00%)
used: 109.07 GiB (45.8%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 15.56 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 46 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0%
Info:
Processes: 338 Uptime: 1h 20m wakeups: 0 Memory: available: 15.56 GiB
used: 4.4 GiB (28.3%) Init: systemd v: 253 default: graphical
tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.1.1 clang: 15.0.7 Packages: pm: pacman
pkgs: 2048 libs: 571 tools: octopi,pamac,paru Shell: fish v: 3.6.1
default: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.27
Garuda (2.6.16-1):
System install date:     2023-06-25
Last full system update: 2023-07-05
Is partially upgraded:   No
Relevant software:       snapper NetworkManager dracut nvidia-dkms
Windows dual boot:       No/Undetected
Failed units:

As you can see from my inxi

inxi
System:
  Kernel: 6.3.9-zen1-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.1.1
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
    root=UUID=6a7bcee6-f3ae-4c03-b6b0-7cb27fb4c8d4 rw rootflags=subvol=@
    quiet quiet splash rd.udev.log_priority=3 vt.global_cursor_default=0
    resume=UUID=1b9b6f2d-a19b-4eee-b2bf-6af31dfdf566 loglevel=3 ibt=off
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.6 tk: Qt v: 5.15.10 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 2
    dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Convertible System: LENOVO product: 81X1 v: IdeaPad Flex 5 14IIL05
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 31 v: IdeaPad Flex 5 14IIL05
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0Q55722 WIN
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO v: ECCN41WW date: 06/27/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 12.1 Wh (28.9%) condition: 41.9/52.6 Wh (79.6%)
    volts: 11.0 min: 11.5 model: Sunwoda L19D3PD6 type: Li-poly serial: <filter>
    status: discharging cycles: 1690
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7-1065G7 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ice Lake
    gen: core 10 level: v4 note: check built: 2019-21 process: Intel 10nm
    family: 6 model-id: 0x7E (126) stepping: 5 microcode: 0xBA
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 320 KiB desc: d-4x48 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 4x512 KiB L3: 8 MiB
    desc: 1x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 887 high: 1000 min/max: 400/3900 scaling:
    driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave cores: 1: 875 2: 967 3: 828 4: 827
    5: 929 6: 953 7: 718 8: 1000 bogomips: 23961
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G7 vendor: Lenovo driver: i915 v: kernel
    arch: Gen-11 process: Intel 10nm built: 2019-21 ports: active: eDP-1
    empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:8a52
    class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX330] vendor: Lenovo driver: nvidia
    v: 535.54.03 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 530.xx+
    status: current (as of 2023-05) arch: Pascal code: GP10x
    process: TSMC 16nm built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 4
    link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1d16
    class-ID: 0302
  Device-3: Bison Integrated Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 3-2:2 chip-ID: 5986:212a
    class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 23.1.2
    compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: nouveau
    alternate: fbdev,intel,nv,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22")
    s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: ChiMei InnoLux 0x1406 built: 2019 res: 1920x1080
    hz: 60 dpi: 158 gamma: 1.2 size: 309x173mm (12.17x6.81") diag: 354mm (13.9")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 23.1.3 renderer: Mesa Intel Iris Plus Graphics
    (ICL GT2) direct-render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP Smart Sound Audio vendor: Lenovo
    driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-icl
    alternate: snd_hda_intel,snd_sof_pci_intel_icl bus-ID: 00:1f.3
    chip-ID: 8086:34c8 class-ID: 0401
  API: ALSA v: k6.3.9-zen1-1-zen status: kernel-api tools: N/A
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.72 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
    status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
    4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:14.3 chip-ID: 8086:34f0 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp0s20f3 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: docker0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 3-10:4 chip-ID: 8087:0026
    class-ID: e001
  Report: bt-adapter ID: hci0 rfk-id: 39 state: down
    bt-service: enabled,running rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes
    address: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 134.39 GiB (28.2%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung
    model: MZALQ512HALU-000L2 size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 3L1QFXV7 temp: 28.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 459.82 GiB size: 459.82 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 134.39 GiB (29.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 576 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 459.82 GiB size: 459.82 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 134.39 GiB (29.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 459.82 GiB size: 459.82 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 134.39 GiB (29.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 459.82 GiB size: 459.82 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 134.39 GiB (29.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 15.29 GiB used: 4.45 GiB (29.1%)
    priority: 100 dev: /dev/zram0
  ID-2: swap-2 type: partition size: 16.82 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
    priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 381 Uptime: 3d 8h 5m wakeups: 8414 Memory: available: 15.29 GiB
  used: 5.03 GiB (32.9%) Init: systemd v: 253 default: graphical
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.1.1 Packages: pm: pacman pkgs: 1402
  libs: 387 tools: paru Shell: fish v: 3.6.1 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.27
Garuda (2.6.16-1):
  System install date:     2022-11-12
  Last full system update: 2023-07-04 ↻
  Is partially upgraded:   No
  Relevant software:       snapper NetworkManager dracut nvidia-dkms
  Windows dual boot:       No/Undetected
  Failed units:            hblock.service 

I have both

Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 23.1.2
compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: nouveau
alternate: fbdev,intel,nv,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: :0
screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22")
s-diag: 582mm (22.93")

modesetting and nvidia drivers in my system. I have a hybrid graphics scenario where I use my intel drivers by default and for any apps or games that I must run on my nvidia card I use the prime render offload. I haven’t set this up myself it came as the default when I installed garuda.

Dont’ know why the situation is different for you. Does your intel chip not provide integrated graphics?

I can check my respective graphics card usage with the following commands.

  1. for nvidia
nvidia-smi
  1. for intel integrated
sudo intel_gpu_top

(You need intel-gpu-tools for this one).

By default with no processes running on my nvidia GPU it looks like this on nvidia-smi

nvidia-smi
Fri Jul  7 10:48:37 2023       
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 535.54.03              Driver Version: 535.54.03    CUDA Version: 12.2     |
|-----------------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name                 Persistence-M | Bus-Id        Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp   Perf          Pwr:Usage/Cap |         Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|                                         |                      |               MIG M. |
|=========================================+======================+======================|
|   0  NVIDIA GeForce MX330           Off | 00000000:01:00.0 Off |                  N/A |
| N/A   51C    P8              N/A / ERR! |      4MiB /  2048MiB |      0%      Default |
|                                         |                      |                  N/A |
+-----------------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
                                                                                         
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                                            |
|  GPU   GI   CI        PID   Type   Process name                            GPU Memory |
|        ID   ID                                                             Usage      |
|=======================================================================================|
|    0   N/A  N/A       832      G   /usr/lib/Xorg                                 4MiB |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

Offloading any processes to this GPU will add them to it’s list on processes like my steam games that I launch with prime-run %command%

PS: I haven’t checked if the plymouth-git package works for me so I guess I can do that and see if having modesetting enabled helps.

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I have an old enough MB (ASUS Rampage Gene IV) that I think I have no integrated graphics chip nor VGA port on it. Maybe that's why modsetting wasn't installed on mine?

This was a fresh install the day that the plymouth-git issue appeared for everyone so the settings I have came from:

  1. Install from USB using open source drivers
  2. Completed garuda-update
  3. Rebooted
  4. Installed Nvidia drivers
  5. Rebooted
  6. Plymouth-git splash sadness. :slight_smile:

Actually integrated graphics is provided by your CPU. and you are right I looked up your CPU online and it seems that Intel Core i7-4930K doesn't have integrated graphics.
Seems like waiting it is for plymouth-git and nivida drivers to work it out with each other. :sweat_smile:

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Well Plymouth is now being disabled by garuda-update and it will also be no longer a part of default installations as well (planned this for some time before the issues) :eyes:

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Why it had been on the plans before this problem? Has it been unreliable in general? Or it has to do with booting speed?

The plymouth team suggested that I add nvidia_drm.modeset=1 to my kernel params to see if it fixes the issue. Worth testing before I take the latest update or nah? If it's useful for the Garuda team, I'll be happy to try.

Update: I did try nvidia_drm.modeset=1 without any luck.

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