No splash, bios and grub

Hey, i wanted to update my bios and noticed that i don't get the mainboard's splash screen, a option to go into the bios and not even a grub loader screen, my main display finds the source of video (hdmi) and displays so on it's boot, tho it stays black, and the second display still tries to find the video source, until both displays more or less at the same time display garuda's login screen... i shamefully admit that i do not know when it started like this because of i usually don't look at my pc boot, but i do know that i did do bios updates before so at some time this had to have to change? i don't know if the garuda-inxi will even help with this, i'll just include it anyways:

System:
  Kernel: 6.0.15-hardened1-1-hardened arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
    v: 12.2.0 parameters: pti=on page_alloc.shuffle=1
    BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-hardened
    root=UUID=59fb3e2d-83c0-4365-a80b-433fb57039f2 rw rootflags=subvol=@
    rd.udev.log_priority=3 vt.global_cursor_default=0
    resume=UUID=07dd9dba-6b0e-4958-8a6d-b047eca29fdd loglevel=3 ibt=off
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.26.4 tk: Qt v: 5.15.7 info: latte-dock
    wm: kwin_x11 vt: 1 dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: Micro-Star model: B450-A PRO MAX (MS-7B86) v: 4.0
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: M.F1
    date: 03/22/2022
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 3 gen: 4
    level: v3 note: check built: 2021-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm)
    family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x50 (80) stepping: 0 microcode: 0xA50000C
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB
    L3: 16 MiB desc: 1x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1539 high: 3570 min/max: 400/4267 boost: enabled
    scaling: driver: amd-pstate governor: schedutil cores: 1: 3423 2: 400 3: 400
    4: 400 5: 2283 6: 400 7: 3544 8: 400 9: 2854 10: 400 11: 3570 12: 400
    bogomips: 86269
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW,
    STIBP: always-on, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP108 [GeForce GT 1030] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: nvidia v: 525.60.11 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 525.xx+
    status: current (as of 2022-12) arch: Pascal code: GP10x
    process: TSMC 16nm built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 4
    bus-ID: 10:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1d01 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.6 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.7
    compositor: kwin_x11 driver: N/A display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3839x1080 s-dpi: 101 s-size: 966x272mm (38.03x10.71")
    s-diag: 1004mm (39.51")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 pos: right res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102
    size: 477x268mm (18.78x10.55") diag: 547mm (21.54") modes: N/A
  Monitor-2: HDMI-0 pos: primary,left res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 94
    size: 521x293mm (20.51x11.54") diag: 598mm (23.53") modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 525.60.11 renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT
    1030/PCIe/SSE2 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP108 High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 3-1.2:3 chip-ID: 0c76:161e pcie:
    class-ID: 0300 gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 4 bus-ID: 10:00.1
    chip-ID: 10de:0fb8 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
    link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 30:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1637
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
    link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 30:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-4: JMTek LLC. USB PnP Audio Device type: USB
    driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
  Sound API: ALSA v: k6.0.15-hardened1-1-hardened running: yes
  Sound Interface: sndio v: N/A running: no
  Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: no
  Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.63 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
    lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 22:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp34s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 3.42 TiB used: 340.53 GiB (9.7%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Silicon Power
    model: SPCC Solid State Disk size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 9A0
    scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Seagate model: ST2000DM008-2FR102
    size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> rev: 0001 scheme: MBR
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Seagate model: ST500LX005-1CW162
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: LVD1 scheme: GPT
  ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Crucial model: CT1000BX500SSD1
    size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 054
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 221.04 GiB size: 221.04 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 173.5 GiB (78.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 592 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 221.04 GiB size: 221.04 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 173.5 GiB (78.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 221.04 GiB size: 221.04 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 173.5 GiB (78.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
  ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 221.04 GiB size: 221.04 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 173.5 GiB (78.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 15.52 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
    dev: /dev/zram0
  ID-2: swap-2 type: partition size: 17.13 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
    priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 19.0 C mobo: 22.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 26 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 0 fan-2: 1147 fan-3: 1521 fan-4: 1203 fan-5: 0
    fan-6: 0 gpu: nvidia fan: 35%
Info:
  Processes: 297 Uptime: 12m wakeups: 0 Memory: 15.52 GiB
  used: 4.1 GiB (26.4%) Init: systemd v: 252 default: graphical
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 clang: 14.0.6 Packages: pm: pacman
  pkgs: 1612 libs: 384 tools: octopi,paru Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16
  running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.24
e[1;34mGaruda (2.6.12-1):e[0m
e[1;34m  System install date:e[0m     2022-04-20
e[1;34m  Last full system update:e[0m 2022-12-28
e[1;34m  Is partially upgraded:  e[0m No
e[1;34m  Relevant software:      e[0m NetworkManager
e[1;34m  Windows dual boot:      e[0m No/Undetected
e[1;34m  Snapshots:              e[0m Snapper
e[1;34m  Failed units:           e[0m shadow.service 

edit: i made a video of my computer while booting, there you should be able to see that there is not really much going on, my keyboard is telling me more about the computer than the computer itself is telling me, it only lights up if it detects a device listening to it, for example at the very start for the bios and around the middle where the grub screen should be
video: signal-2022-12-30-130250-muted.cleaned

Check in your bios that it is set to first display pcie not igpu

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desktop pc with a cpu, not apu, i'll restart and try to go into the bios

bios won't respond either

Disconnect your second monitor and try again to enter the bios.
How did you update your bios?

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before i updated it like i expect it to work, pc boots, i press delete and go through the usual update-process

It sounds like the bios update didn,t go well :thinking:
First You could try resetting the bios as the manual describes.

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i didn't do a bios update and then it stopped working, it had to have been a while later, also now the second screen just shows up at the login screen and then says it can't find a source, even tho it displayed the login before...

Sorry miss read thought you had .
In that case there is a newer bios update for your board 2022-08-11
Update it

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i already have it, updated that a couple months ago, don't know what i saw with a update but the problem stays the same, no bios nor splash nor grub... and now nor a second display...

your inxi shows you are not using the latest bios?

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i did update it, don't ask me why it can't see that... also the problem gets weirder every restart... now the main display works like intended, splash, bios, grub etc everything working and showing like expected, however the second screen displays the login screen, then after i enter my password it says no input signal found, and the system manager tells me it is deactive, so i activate it - or at least tell it to - and nothing changes, apart from the fact that the system manager thinks it's active now, however mouse will only stay on my main screen, so no ghost screen or whatever there...

Weid hardware problem?
I think my first step would be to reinstall the latest bios or reset the bios?
As this is happening at post.

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from my understanding the post does what it is supposed to, and until i log in everything - and every screen - does what i expect it to, but as soon as i log in the second screen is refusing to work, checked the cable and all but nothing seems to change that... post is long long done before the login screen is shown - or at least if i am informed correctly

also i don't have a correctly formatted usb stick at the moment, the only one not full of stuff i need is still in my car radio and someone is driving with it at the moment, the only other one i have is ext4 with ventoy on it, and i don't want to format that just for the bios update, it's a pretty big stick and got a lot of data on it

Ok :grinning:
Just a thought then Swap the monitors round on the graphics card and only use one monitor?
As it,s not displaying at boot?

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as i said, until i log in every display shows what i expect it to show during the boot, first display splash screen, grub and the verbose log, second display nothing until the login - as i want them to, however as soon as i enter my password the second screen shuts off and displays that it's searching for a display source... it displayed the login screen correctly and i could actively type and move my mouse on it...

Ok now i,m confused your video showed no boot screen on any display.
you were unable to boot into the bios.
Now you say the screens are working at boot as expected.
What did you do to fix that bit.
Is your inxi now displaying correctly?

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i know, the video was not updated, and as what i changed: i have no idea, i just restarted and restarted the computer... the inxi still says the bios would be outdated

ok
last thought with out doing a bios update try a different kernel

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