I followed the install to a T but noticed when it came down to the step 9, there was no /usr/lib/firedragon.cfg.pacnew and no indication of whether this is crucial or not? Is it?
I assume the old configuration is fine. What is the condition where that pacnew file would not be provided?
I already had disabled fingerprinting. It makes no difference. Also the radio toggle buttons for useragent donāt do anything, even though it saves the setting in the UI. I did edit firedragon.cfg to change it for real though. I have matched Firedragonās settings to match my Firefox settings, including the exact useragent, have disabled the tracker blocking and uBlock Origin for the site, and Twitch still says my browser is unsupported. This seems crazy.
Same thing happened to me⦠no .pacnew. But I donāt think itās that the old configuration is fine, I think it replaces the config file with the new one without doing a .pacnew.
Itās not important, if you donāt have it, then itās all cool. I will edit my post.
The radio buttons wonāt do anything with Fingerprinting enabled.
If you disable FP and itās not āreallyā disabled, then you are probably experiencing what I started to be convinced today: people need to install the new FD using a new Profile from scratch, just like if it was a new browser.
My own FD on my main machine had a LOCKPREF in about:config on the useragent, I couldnāt change it at all. I needed to start a new Profile and all is good now.
It seems some prefs get āstuckā when installing over the same profile as old FD. The stuck prefs can happen at anytime and can be anything, I have seen a couple of variants already!
Yes, I had to delete my profile and start from scratch. But I disabled Fingerprinting in the cfg file and the radio buttons still didnāt change anything. I had it set to Firefox but using a website that reports your useragent it still said Windows/Chrome.
Anyway, my point is, I have Firedragon reporting to whatismybrowser.com the exact same spoofed info as my Firefox⦠yet I canāt log into Twitch with it, while it lets me log in with Firefox just fine. I just donāt understand what else it could be detecting thatās different.
Your web browser looks like:
Firefox on Linux
But itās announcing that is is:
Firefox 115 on Windows 10
which (I think) means a few things
I probably have Firefox UA stuck somewhere in my old profile, it should at least report itself as Chrome on Windows (and I have another thing to look into)
FPP and UA spoofing work⦠up to a point
sites that go to great length to detect your browser (and no doubt there are ready made libraries to do just that) can still know that the UA is spoofed
sites, and the external services like cloudflare that āverify your connectionā (whatever that actually means), may consider it a sign of āsuspicious activityā and act funny (refuse service, or simply have bugs in handling the different cases)
Spoofing a mobile UA works in the Floorp sidebar though: I put whatismybrowser there and
Firefox on Linux
Edge 114 on Android (Marshmallow)
and by the way, āThird-Party Cookies are enabledā (but are they? are they supposed to be?)
I donāt know if maybe this can be used as a workaround to log in on pesky websites (and if it works, it means my theory is not the actual cause of problems)
I guess Iāll wipe the profile and re-import bookmarks and passwords to see if it makes a difference (but first I want to find why itās spoofing the wrong UA)
Yeah, the default useragent spoof doesnāt fool that site. I put in a custom one to make it match the current Firefox and as far as I can tell, there is no difference. Every detail reported matches. Hereās the temporary link to my report:
Ok I understand. Thatās good to know, we are trying to find the best balance of settings, not too strict but not too slack either.
There are various ways to troubleshoot this, what Iād suggest is to install FLOORP and try Twitch login right away without changing anything. If that works, good news we can probably find the setting and see if we should adjust it.
If the login fails, then Iām not sure we will slack settings more than FLOORP, or maybe itās an internal issue with FLOORP in which case opening a bug on their github would be the way to go.
I have no idea if the Firefox fix is already in the version we use, maybe cuz I think itās based on 115.6. If someone outside FF needs to do something more, then we rely on Floorp to patch stuff.
However I noticed 2 of the 3 settings are set to FALSE with our Release 10 here. I will set them to TRUE for next version.
Amazing! That was very good advice. I installed Floorp and was able to log into Twitch with the default settings just fine. I changed a few more things in firedragon.cfg and was finally able to log into Twitch there also!
By trying to figure this out, my Firedragon security settings are actually weaker than the default Floorp settings⦠so now I will have to go through each setting one by one until I get blocked by Twitch again, so I can narrow down the actual thing they donāt like.
Has anyone else noticed Dark Reader behaving very differently on some sites with the new Firedragon? Itās not a huge deal, but Iāve had to disable it or change itās inversion mode on many sites where everything is now invisible or unreadable with the default settings. Very odd.
I have not noticed, can you get screenshots of examples?
If you donāt want to go back to old FD you can post a screenshot from the new FD and point out the differences.
Sorry, I think that was a false alarm. I tried the sites I noticed it with on Firefox and Dark Reader looks the same. Just to be sure I installed Librewolf since thatās what old Firedragon was based on⦠and itās also the same.
So either I am remembering incorrectly, or I had something set up differently before and forgot (I usually keep alternate dark mode extensions around for pages I canāt get Dark Reader to play nice with)⦠or something about the sites in question has changed recently. Either way, the new Firedragon isnāt behaving differently from the other browsers so itās a non-issue.
In this version some tweaks from @meanruse have been integrated and other details changed (no more centered URL and Bookmarks, fingerprinting enabled in Private Mode, no Parental Control, given user full control over FD (policy-wise)⦠little details like that. I couldnāt keep a changelog but will try to have a better one next times.)
And I was thinking of trying Floorp cause I saw it being used by Chris Titus the other dayā¦
Cause I mainly use brave, but it doesnāt play well with gtk lately for some reason. Iāve figured out a workaround but still gives me problems⦠Anyway