Garuda KDE Ryzen 3500 issues?

yours too :slight_smile:
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sudo pacman -Syu
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Sudo pacman -Syu

My employer's 745 G6 is working with Garuda xfce. I downloaded the iso today from sourceforge and installed it alongside windows. I have tempted it to fail with sudo pacman -Syu, a package install via pamac, and another package install from terminal. I have rebooted about 6 times and it starts up fine. This is by far the longest that any Linux distro has lasted on this G6. The "display" gui has defaulted to the correct setting of 1920x1080. It's tough to troubleshoot something that isn't broken. Should I try KDE or an "ultimate" edition? See specs below:

System:    Kernel: 5.10.4-107-tkg-bmq x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0 
           parameters: intel_pstate=passive BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-tkg-bmq 
           root=UUID=e7745b00-0663-4b9a-b71a-fbbdb2643cac rw rootflags=subvol=@ quiet splash rd.udev.log_priority=3 
           vt.global_cursor_default=0 systemd.unified_cgroup_hierarchy=1 loglevel=3 
           Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Garuda Linux 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP EliteBook 745 G6 QEB2020B v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: HP model: 8584 v: KBC Version 57.2D.00 serial: <filter> UEFI: HP v: R74 Ver. 01.03.05 date: 03/24/2020 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 49.7 Wh condition: 49.7/49.7 Wh (100%) volts: 13.1/11.6 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary 
           type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U w/ Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen/Zen+ 
           note: check family: 17 (23) model-id: 18 (24) stepping: 1 microcode: 8108109 L2 cache: 2 MiB 
           flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 33575 
           Speed: 1228 MHz min/max: 1400/2100 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1228 2: 1227 3: 1245 4: 1394 5: 1225 
           6: 1226 7: 1223 8: 1225 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds status: Not affected 
           Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Picasso vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.0 
           chip ID: 1002:15d8 
           Device-2: Chicony HP HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus ID: 4-2:3 chip ID: 04f2:b669 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 driver: amdgpu,ati unloaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa display ID: :0.0 
           screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.0x11.2") s-diag: 582mm (22.9") 
           Monitor-1: eDP res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 158 size: 309x173mm (12.2x6.8") diag: 354mm (13.9") 
           OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (RAVEN DRM 3.40.0 5.10.4-107-tkg-bmq LLVM 11.0.0) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.2 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.1 chip ID: 1002:15de 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor driver: N/A 
           alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_rn_pci_acp3x bus ID: 04:00.5 chip ID: 1022:15e2 
           Device-3: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
           bus ID: 04:00.6 chip ID: 1022:15e3 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.4-107-tkg-bmq 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel 
           port: 3300 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: enp1s0f0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Intel Wireless-AC 9260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 8086:2526 
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           Device-3: Intel Wireless-AC 9260 Bluetooth Adapter type: USB driver: btusb bus ID: 4-1.2:4 chip ID: 8087:0025 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 9.53 GiB (4.0%) 
           SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends 
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: MZVLQ256HAJD-000H1 size: 238.47 GiB block size: 
           physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> rev: HPS4NFXV temp: 26.9 C 
Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 117.49 GiB size: 117.49 GiB (100.00%) used: 9.04 GiB (7.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 
           maj-min: 259:5 
           ID-2: /boot/efi raw size: 1000 MiB size: 996 MiB (99.60%) used: 506.5 MiB (50.9%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 
           maj-min: 259:1 
           ID-3: /home raw size: 117.49 GiB size: 117.49 GiB (100.00%) used: 9.04 GiB (7.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 
           maj-min: 259:5 
           ID-4: /var/log raw size: 117.49 GiB size: 117.49 GiB (100.00%) used: 9.04 GiB (7.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 
           maj-min: 259:5 
           ID-5: /var/tmp raw size: 117.49 GiB size: 117.49 GiB (100.00%) used: 9.04 GiB (7.7%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 
           maj-min: 259:5 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache pressure: 75 (default 100) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 1.71 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 32767 dev: /dev/zram0 
           ID-2: swap-2 type: zram size: 1.71 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 32767 dev: /dev/zram1 
           ID-3: swap-3 type: zram size: 1.71 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 32767 dev: /dev/zram2 
           ID-4: swap-4 type: zram size: 1.71 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 32767 dev: /dev/zram3 
           ID-5: swap-5 type: zram size: 1.71 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 32767 dev: /dev/zram4 
           ID-6: swap-6 type: zram size: 1.71 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 32767 dev: /dev/zram5 
           ID-7: swap-7 type: zram size: 1.71 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 32767 dev: /dev/zram6 
           ID-8: swap-8 type: zram size: 1.71 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 32767 dev: /dev/zram7 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 53.9 C mobo: 30.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 53.0 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:      Processes: 287 Uptime: 16m wakeups: 1 Memory: 13.66 GiB used: 2.76 GiB (20.2%) Init: systemd v: 247 Compilers: 
           gcc: 10.2.0 clang: 11.0.0 Packages: pacman: 1319 lib: 314 Shell: Zsh v: 5.8 running in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.2.01 

Try both :slight_smile:
In “Ultimate” you need more free space on the hard disk, the computer performance is sufficient for both.
Whether now all games run smoothly I can not guarantee, I do not play :wink:

There are 2 levels of new hardware support in the kernels. First is for new hardware components followed by support for new models from specific hardware vendors. The 3500U has been out for a while, but HP is known for being not so linux friendly. Either way, it takes time for the kernel to get hardware specific updates, and model specific fixes often take even longer. It seems that the mainline kernel (5.10.4) has (finally) caught up to this HP G6.

Garuda is unusual in providing very recent kernel releases on its ISO’s, which makes it more likely to boot on the newest hardware. It would be even cooler if the installer had an option to boot an older LTS kernel instead of the latest, because sometimes, progress means sacrificing support for older systems… But Garuda is focused on performance, typically on very recent hardware. There is always debian distros for older systems!

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@tbg @petsam

Recently, I have seen others having problems using the latest Ryzen chips. Users on Garuda and several other Arch derived distrobutions.

gary

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I suppose it is valid. A friend of mine had such strange issues recently with the latest generation.
In Linux there is a cost if you choose to buy the latest in the HW market.
But usually the issues are solved quickly enough. Or search the fora for workarounds :man_shrugging:.

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Mine is running smoothly on Garuda KDE Dr460nized - after the initial trouble getting consistent boots everything has seemed to iron itself out still using the kernel that shipped with it. after further testing I will also try the mainline kernel and see if that has any positive or negative impact. This is my first experience with Arch and also fish - both of which I am liking thus far.

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My HP745 G6 is still running fine on Garuda xfce. I want to try KDE, but I am unable to create a USB stick that will boot on the HP. I've tried KDE Dr460nized, KDE Media edition, and MATE. The HP won't boot from them or even recognize them from the BIOS boot menu. I tried an Ubuntu 20.10 USB stick in the HP and it started right up. I tried my Garuda USB sticks in my desktop PC (i3-9100) and they started right up! The issue is very specific: I can't make the HP 745 boot from a Garuda USB stick. I have tried the USB burner packaged with Garuda xfce, The Mintstick burner in Linux Mint, and Balena Etcher. Same result. I'm tired of fooling with it. I'll try again tomorrow.

On my newest computer I built a while back I was using a Ryzen 5 with the onboard Vega graphics and it would not install. I had only been using Garuda a very short period of time so I didn't really know much about the OS.

I searched the forum to see if I could find a cause. I found one post at that time that said they couldn't get Garuda KDE to install on their computer with onboard Vega graphics, (but it installed fine on other hardware).

This was a desktop and I luckily had an extra AMD graphics card already. So I installed the other AMD graphics card to my mobo and everything was good to go. Sadly, not really an option for a laptop computer, but it worked for my desktop.

It's possible the kernel may play a big part in this issue (even though I was using older onboard graphics) , the mobo was a brand new AMD based Asus mobo.

I guess if you wanted to install a custom kernel for a box that won't boot Garuda, you'd need to build your own custom ISO with alternate kernel(s).

Just some random thoughts that perhaps might provide some ideas to help with your issues.

Sometimes Linux is more like Voodo than a fact based scientific process. Perhaps you are simply lacking the proper incantation to utter at boot time. Maybe RMS, knows the magic incantation to get the GNU software to boot in harmony with the Linux kernel.

:rofl:

Good luck.

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The HP745 G6 is newish hardware. I suspect if I just wait a few months the kernel will catch up with it. I've been distro hopping like mad for two years, and Linux failures have been exceedingly rare. One time I couldn't get Mint Cinnamon to run on an ancient i3-2100 system, but Mint MATE ran fine. And then I've had this recent issue with the HP745. Really that's the only failures I can recall. I have run many flavors of Linux including off-beat "community" spins on a hodge-podge of old & new hardware. They all worked. My son recently built a high performance mid tower gaming rig based on a 10th Gen i9 and couldn't get Windows to install! I tried MX on it and it ran perfect. This is my employer's G6 so I'm not out any money. I can wait a little longer.

Were you able to finally make a KDE stick to try to install from?

Here is a screenshot of my 745 running like a champ so far! I would have posted this in the showcase thread but I dont have permissions :smiley:

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Try again, please, maybe I set wrong permission on forum start :slight_smile:

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will do - I started off with a bang so I figured I had to earn it back :smiley: lol

My 745 G6 is still running Garuda xfce just fine. My issue is that I can't duplicate my earlier success. I can't create a Garuda USB stick with KDE or MATE that will boot, let alone install. We have a contractor who is going to re-image all of our new 745s with "enterprise" Windows 10 starting tomorrow. After that I won't be able to tinker with it any more. Fortunately, I get to keep my trusty old HP 640 for my own use at work and it dual-boots Windoze & Linux with perfect regularity.

I have a suggestion that you may try to implement.
There is a project for multiboot ISOs (before Ventoy ever was). It includes a script (or instructions if you prefer) to create a hybrid multiboot USB drive and a set of ready-made grub config files to auto discover ISO files and create grub menu to boot them.
There is no Garuda config, but I have created and used one for my needs. Maybe you can confirm it works, so we can start suggesting it.
Original project and Webpage
Forked project (original stopped adding/fixing issues)

Save this in the relevant USB (or project) path, at (check relevant) /boot/grub/mbusb.d/garuda.d/generic.cfg

for isofile in $isopath/garuda-*.iso; do
  if [ -e "$isofile" ]; then
    regexp --set=isoname "$isopath/(.*)" "$isofile"
    submenu "$isoname ->" "$isofile" {
      iso_path="$2"
      loopback loop "$iso_path"
      probe --label --set=cd_label (loop)
      menuentry "Start Garuda Linux" {
        bootoptions="img_dev=$imgdevpath img_loop=$iso_path earlymodules=loop misobasedir=garuda misolabel=$cd_label nouveau.modeset=1 i915.modeset=1 radeon.modeset=1 logo.nologo overlay=free quiet  showopts"
        linux (loop)/boot/vmlinuz-* $bootoptions
        initrd (loop)/boot/initramfs-*.img
      }
      menuentry "Start Garuda Linux amdgpu not-radeon" {
        bootoptions="img_dev=$imgdevpath img_loop=$iso_path earlymodules=loop misobasedir=garuda misolabel=$cd_label nouveau.modeset=1 i915.modeset=1 radeon.modeset=0 amdgpu.modeset=1 logo.nologo overlay=free quiet  showopts"
        linux (loop)/boot/vmlinuz-* $bootoptions
        initrd (loop)/boot/initramfs-*.img
      }
      menuentry "Start (nvidia proprietary non-free drivers)" {
        bootoptions="img_dev=$imgdevpath img_loop=$iso_path earlymodules=loop misobasedir=garuda misolabel=$cd_label nouveau.modeset=0 i915.modeset=1 radeon.modeset=1 nonfree=yes logo.nologo overlay=nonfree quiet  showopts"
        linux (loop)/boot/vmlinuz-* $bootoptions
        initrd (loop)/boot/initramfs-*.img
      }
      menuentry "Start Garuda no nVidia" {
        bootoptions="img_dev=$imgdevpath img_loop=$iso_path earlymodules=loop misobasedir=garuda misolabel=$cd_label nouveau.modeset=0 i915.modeset=1 radeon.modeset=1 logo.nologo overlay=free quiet  showopts"
        linux (loop)/boot/vmlinuz-* $bootoptions
        initrd (loop)/boot/initramfs-*.img
      }
    }
  fi
done

This config for Garuda provides different choices, depending on video hardware, which may or not do much difference. I was experimenting, but it would be nice if you test them with your hardware and provide feedback.

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Thank you for the suggestion. Unfortunately I have turned in our entire inventory of HP745s to be re-imaged with "enterprise" Windows 10. Once they are returned to me I'm not going to tamper with them. It was fun while it lasted though. BTW the HP 745 G6 is a really nice laptop! Brushed aluminum case, beautiful display, good audio, lovely keyboard. Wish I could afford one.

but it’s HP… :slightly_frowning_face:

No tampering at all. Just confirm the method gives a successful boot, so we can suggest to others. :wink:
Check:

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message me - I might sell mine and I will make you a super deal on it - I want to get an MSI or something with an RGB keyboard.

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