Firedragon Rounded Corners padding

I mentioned this before, and the issue persists on a brand new setup so I’ll report it again.

By default, Firedragon has rounded corners. The problem is that it also has big paddings that reduce the visible space considerably. Furthermore, you can no longer select the right scrollbar by moving the mouse to the right, you need to move a few pixels to the left to pick up the scrollbar!

That padding is wasted real-estate; and with inflation, every inch of real-estate is valuable. (seriously, a dozen Chinese people could live in that wasted space)

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Failed units:

You cannot get this?

Scrollbar doesn’t touch the edge of the screen, so if the mouse is at the edge, it’s not over the scrollbar; and it’s very narrow.

It’s still possible to use the scrollbar; but quite difficult. I’d be relying on scrolling instead.

I can see a very slight padding on my end, identified by the red lines in this screenshot.

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My browser’s edge is the violet line on the right and if the mouse is WITHIN that padding it’s true, the scrollbar is not showing.

But still, every time I approach the edge the scrollbar becomes wider and is easy to grab. It’s actually much more difficult, on my end, to only hit the padding with the mouse (which seems your problem), so it always ends up touching the scrollbar area and it pops up.

This comment reminds me of a very very similar one from a couple months ago.

It may be possible to make the scrollbar wider or always showing using some about:config. Not sure which ones but testing those related to scrollbar may lead somewhere.

Other suggestion is to look on the Floorp github, if anyone else has raised something like this. Possible workarounds or fixes may be found there as well.

You could also disable the rounded corners and see if it helps. You probably did already since you say the problem is caused by the additional padding included with the rounded corners.

I am not able to have a different behavior, than the one I get above, about the scrollbar when trying a different machine.

Yes I posted about this some time ago. Is there a reason for the padding? It doesn’t serve any purpose. I can just disable it on my machine but I don’t think that padding should be there by default.

and ya you’re right, when the mouse approaches the side (if not moving too fast), then it becomes wider and can be grabbed easily. That still gives no purpose to the extra padding.

My guess is it’s related to how the implementation of rounding the corners is done. Could be some limitation in the code as well. I would bet if they wanted to round corners more they (Floorp) would need to add even more padding.

It’s a very good question, but definitely one that should be asked at Floorp.

That’s correct, this I can reproduce, if I move faster it overshoots and I need to come back slowly to hit the bar.

I think you should open up an issue at Floorp and see what the guys say. If there’s a neat way to fix this without making the rounded corners look bad, it would improve the UX at almost no cost. Question is, if that is even possible, why haven’t they done it in the 1st place.

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The padding is absolutely not needed for rounded corners. You see the corners being cut simply within a reduced area.

Alright let’s report it on the Floorp side then.

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it could be if your accessibility challenged an things like moving a mouse well is hard.

Alright Floorp’s answer is inspired by Microsoft’s usual answer: It’s not a bug, it’s by design, to copy Edge’s behavior.

No plan to change but can be modified via userChrome.css.

So where does FireDragon stand on this? Maybe should vote.

You have your answer, let’s get some of your other help requests solved now.

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Sorry to highjack, @tbg, I think the below may be useful for anyone else landing on this thread in the future:

Since Floorp’s answer is a valid one, it’s up to anyone to like or dislike this Edge feature.

For FD there is no plan on pushing a CSS that would be opt-in for people, we can’t force the use of a CSS. It has been tried in the past for other reasons and has proven to not be a good approach. We prefer to let users play around with their own CSS.

FD also doesn’t plan on changing that padding, we stand by the fact that if it was that much of an issue, Floorp itself would redraw from it. This thinking is at the heart of using Floorp as a base now, we want to modify/hack as little as possible to keep maintenance and issues at a minimum and alter as less as possible users’ files (this is also why we provide an override feature for the firedragon.cfg settings files).

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