The Distrowatch review - thoughts?

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Oh, wow! A feature story - that's pretty darned cool!

Slightly mixed review, but then it's still "early days" for the distro.

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Yeah most of these issues are addressed in gitlab
As for lxqt we use tiling script

So he had no idea about it.

As for windows bring transparent

It seems blur effect fails on his hardware.
And the login failing

  • desktop dissapear

Its related qt update

Ohh well he had a very rough ride

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Its nice to get a thoughtful review since it helps us improving :slight_smile:
Most stuff indeed got addressed. it also seems that the reviewer is more into purist systems, which his conclusion also tells :smiley:

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I think we should remove preload its causing them to think
That our desktop use more ram than necessary

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Yeah, lot of people think this appearently :thinking:
Instead maybe make it another toggle

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Or, make it a key feature?

That said, it does increase boot time because it has to read data from disk. It's a balancing act - more boot time for better first-launch performance?

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And Garuda is not for VM could be written on DL page.

All the problems he has I don't have :smiley: only Nvidia break sometimes my boot :wink:

HIS old PC

Processor: Intel i3 2.5GHz CPU
Display: Intel integrated video
Storage: Western Digital 700GB hard drive
Memory: 6GB of RAM
Wired network device: Realtek RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast
Wireless network device: Realtek RTL8188EE Wireless network card
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Yup i entirely agree i made too many tweaks for it to perform better on my hardware

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From this GPU take also RAM, not fair :smiley: :wink: :slight_smile:

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There is only one reason why we set requirements for the ram so high

I dont know why but while installing it consumes too much ram

And i suspect preload being the problem

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Then lets just not install it by default and make it optional for the performance tweaks package?

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Okay lets test it

We will test the ram usage of kde ultimate when installing

We will remove preload from this test iso and see if ram usage drops while installing

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Well the boot up failure is the main reason why I switched over to garuda. Anything with GNOME fails to boot up on my laptop and KDE shows lots of errors on boot up.

To be clear, my english is bad :wink:

Garuda GNOME and KDE work on your laptop?

Would be nice to have your laptop spec's with

inxi -Fxxxza
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Admin changed terminal output, use preformatted text, please.
Output :

System:
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  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
  root=UUID=6dd344a0-8a8c-4489-983a-a6a381870d54 rw
  [email protected] quiet splash loglevel=3
  Desktop: i3 4.18.2 info: i3bar dm: LightDM 1.30.0
  Distro: Garuda Linux
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14s-dk0xxx
  v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10
  serial: <filter>
  Mobo: HP model: 85E0 v: 84.47 serial: <filter> UEFI: AMI
  v: F.56 date: 07/13/2020
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 17.5 Wh
  condition: 42.0/42.0 Wh (100%) volts: 12.4/11.6
  model: Hewlett-Packard Primary type: Li-ion
  serial: <filter> status: Charging
CPU:
  Info: Quad Core
  model: AMD Ryzen 5 3500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx
  bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen+ family: 17 (23)
  model-id: 18 (24) stepping: 1 microcode: 8108109
  L2 cache: 2048 KiB
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2
  sse4a ssse3 svm
  bogomips: 33538
  Speed: 2760 MHz min/max: 1400/2100 MHz boost: enabled
  Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1783 2: 2770 3: 1344 4: 1345
  5: 2764 6: 2768 7: 2714 8: 2715
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  status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store
  Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers
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  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB:
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  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Picasso vendor: Hewlett-Packard
  driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 04:00.0
  chip ID: 1002:15d8
  Device-2: Quanta HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB
  driver: uvcvideo bus ID: 1-4:2 chip ID: 0408:5365
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 compositor: picom
  v: git-2c9e7 driver: amdgpu,ati unloaded: modesetting
  alternate: fbdev,vesa display ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96
  s-size: 508x285mm (20.0x11.2") s-diag: 582mm (22.9")
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Audio:
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  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
  bus ID: 04:00.1 chip ID: 1002:15de
  Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio
  Processor
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  chip ID: 1022:15e2
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  bus ID: 04:00.6 chip ID: 1022:15e3
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Network:
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  Ethernet
  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel
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  IF: eno1 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8723DE 802.11b/g/n PCIe Adapter
  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: rtw_8723de v: N/A
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  chip ID: 10ec:d723
  IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
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  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed.
  Check --recommends
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Partition:
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Swap:
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  cache pressure: 50 (default 100)
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  ID-5: swap-5 type: zram size: 184.9 MiB
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Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 63.4 C mobo: 0.0 C gpu: amdgpu
  temp: 63.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 291 Uptime: 2m Memory: 5.78 GiB
  used: 1.84 GiB (31.8%) Init: systemd v: 246 Compilers:
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@SGS Thanks for asking but I already use Garuda I3 and it works as smooth as butter. Will soon try the KDE edition.
Cheers :slight_smile: The thing I like the most about Garuda is it community.
Love
spaceromero

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Great to hear :grimacing:

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Hello, I did not experienced the issues the reviewer mentioned, and for me KDE Lite boots fast and shutoff fast too. I only had difficulties with my old Nvidia proprietary drives, but with your help was piece of cake the solution, in fact it was not Garuda issue. I have not tested LxQt.
Regards

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Most people testing Garuda have different hardware. The fact that Linux works at all on the millions of hardware combinations in existence is pretty amazing.

There will always be people whose hardware doesn't work well on a specific distro, yet it may work well with another. You can either keep trying distros until you find one that works for you out of the box, or you need to get your hands dirty and fix the issue yourself.

The forum is always here for those who wish to try their hand at wrenching on their system. Most usually find an answer on the forum if they are persistent. There's not that many help requests that go unresolved here on the Garuda forum.

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Jessie's reviews are sometimes not relevant as he is using old hardware and slow spinners to do his reviews, He is also very set in his ways and very stubborn.
But he is one of the better Reviewers all in all.

The other problem with reviews is they are very personal, not subjective to the modern trends and changes.

What I will say is Garuda installed on my 7200 spinner is a slug yes its slow,

On the other side of the coin on my SSDs its fast its stable a joy to use Garuda like most modern Distros is made with modern hardware not the latest and greatest but under 10years old I say that as I use 8 year old gear that performs just fine as i do not game.

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