Question regarding updates

Sorry, I don’t use Pamac, won’t use Pamac, and truly believe there is a hex on Pamac, or should be, for all the trouble it causes. I’m not the only one here of that opinion. I only use Octopi or a terminal, or a clean chroot, (the best way) makepkg to install from the AUR. A terminal to uninstall packages.

And solely a terminal to update.

If I use Octopi in GNOME, which I do, I gussy it up with a utility pkg like adwaita-qt5 or whatever, so it looks like a GNOME app.

But back to Pamac. A lot of Arch-based (Garuda, Endeavour, etc.) users got burnt badly a couple of years ago and “once burnt, twice shy.” Pamac was originally written by a small team of Manjaro (a spin) users, and it was specific to Manjaro at that time. I remember telling them what a horrible, horrible play on our package manager “Pacman” it was, but oh well. :slight_smile:

They released it to the AUR, at some point it was poorly maintained, and broke everyone’s GRUB who used GRUB at that time. Hence the unpleasant odor it retains.

Some still swear by it. More swear at it.

I have no clue what your sound system problems are. Post a “garuda-inxi” output from your newly installed, updated, and rebooted Garuda here, so we have a fighting chance of seeing what’s going on.

I don’t use WINE at all; only rarely game with Steam. I only run Linux applications in Linux, and nearly all the same ported Linux/Windows or FOSS apps (firefox, onlyoffice, vlc, nordvpn, qbittorrent, bleachbit, maybe etcher, a few others)in Windows. If I ever run Windows again after today’s dust-up. I try to stick with what’s familiar. Except…

  • Imagine my surprise to learn today that my /etc/udev/rules.d/60-ioschedulers.rules is most probably not needed (anymore) for Desktop Linux. Maybe a server or other specialized setup, but not mine. That, from a very knowledgeable Arch Forums moderator. Hunf! It’s still in the Arch Wiki’s Improving Performance section, though: Improving performance - ArchWiki And the example used is exactly what I use. Who knew?
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I see madam/ sir ! . Va bene then , I will use octopi as a good measure and this issue about audio input and output seems to be caused when I install an application , or update from Garuda Assistant.

The inxi of fresh install has been posted .

Loopback audio devices are created by v42lloopback module required by droidcam.

fresh install inxi:

System:
Kernel: 6.6.1-zen1-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.1
clocksource: tsc available: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
root=UUID=c0118c63-48a0-4e76-87eb-27dbdb776a95 rw rootflags=subvol=@
quiet loglevel=3 ibt=off
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.9 tk: Qt v: 5.15.11 wm: kwin_wayland vt: 1
dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: HP product: HP All-in-One 22-df0xxx v: N/A
serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 13 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: HP model: 87A4 v: 10100 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
v: F.36 date: 08/07/2023
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Core i3-1005G1 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ice Lake
gen: core 10 level: v4 note: check built: 2019-21 process: Intel 10nm
family: 6 model-id: 0x7E (126) stepping: 5 microcode: 0xC2
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache:
L1: 160 KiB desc: d-2x48 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 2x512 KiB
L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 827 high: 1101 min/max: 400/3400 scaling:
driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave cores: 1: 899 2: 1101 3: 911 4: 400
bogomips: 9523
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G1 vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915
v: kernel arch: Gen-11 process: Intel 10nm built: 2019-21 ports:
active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, DP-4, HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0
chip-ID: 8086:8a56 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: Luxvisions Innotech HP TrueVision HD Camera driver: uvcvideo
type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-10:7
chip-ID: 30c9:0013 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.9 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.2
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: modesetting
alternate: fbdev,intel,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 display-ID: 0
Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1920x1080 size: N/A modes: N/A
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel iris platforms: device: 0 drv: iris
device: 1 drv: swrast surfaceless: drv: iris wayland: drv: iris x11:
drv: iris inactive: gbm
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 23.2.1-arch1.2
glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (ICL GT1)
device-ID: 8086:8a56 memory: 7.35 GiB unified: yes display-ID: :1.0
API: Vulkan v: 1.3.269 layers: 3 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel
UHD Graphics (ICL GT1) driver: mesa intel v: 23.2.1-arch1.2
device-ID: 8086:8a56 surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland device: 1 type: cpu
name: llvmpipe (LLVM 16.0.6 256 bits) driver: mesa llvmpipe
v: 23.2.1-arch1.2 (LLVM 16.0.6) device-ID: 10005:0000
surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP Smart Sound Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_icl
bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:34c8 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.6.1-zen1-1-zen status: kernel-api tools: N/A
Server-1: sndiod v: N/A status: off tools: aucat,midicat,sndioctl
Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.84 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
lanes: 1 port: 4000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Realtek RTL8821CE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: rtw_8821ce v: N/A modules: rtw88_8821ce
pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 3000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
chip-ID: 10ec:c821 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth 4.2 Adapter driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB
rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-5:6 chip-ID: 0bda:b00a
class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 4.2
lmp-v: 8 status: discoverable: no pairing: no class-ID: 7c0104
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 975.29 GiB used: 9.97 GiB (1.0%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital
model: WD10EZEX-60WN4A1 size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B
logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter>
fw-rev: 1A03 scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Blade
size: 29.25 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB
rev: 2.0 spd: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 tech: N/A serial: <filter>
fw-rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Blade
size: 14.53 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB
rev: 2.1 spd: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 tech: N/A serial: <filter>
fw-rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 243.1 GiB size: 243.1 GiB (100.00%) used: 9.97 GiB (4.1%)
fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 513 MiB size: 512 MiB (99.80%)
used: 576 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
ID-3: /home raw-size: 243.1 GiB size: 243.1 GiB (100.00%)
used: 9.97 GiB (4.1%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 243.1 GiB size: 243.1 GiB (100.00%)
used: 9.97 GiB (4.1%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 243.1 GiB size: 243.1 GiB (100.00%)
used: 9.97 GiB (4.1%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 7.53 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
comp: zstd avail: lzo,lzo-rle,lz4,lz4hc,842 max-streams: 4 dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
Processes: 197 Uptime: 2m wakeups: 0 Memory: total: 8 GiB note: est.
available: 7.53 GiB used: 1.4 GiB (18.6%) Init: systemd v: 254
default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.2.1 Packages:
pm: pacman pkgs: 1392 libs: 402 tools: octopi,pamac,paru Shell: fish
v: 3.6.1 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.31
Garuda (2.6.19-2):
System install date:     2023-11-14
Last full system update: 2023-11-15
Is partially upgraded:   No
Relevant software:       snapper NetworkManager dracut
Windows dual boot:       No/Undetected
Failed units:            nmb.service

Your CPU is a bit newer than mine, and you require different video drivers. I don’t know which.

Get rid of Pamac.

Are those inserted for a reason? Please unplug them.

Do you need SAMBA? Are you communicating with other computers on a local network?

And please don’t install more applications while you have other exigent problems. :slight_smile:

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  1. Got rid of pamac ,

  2. Two of those usb are essential , one with ventoy and other with music .

  3. I installed printer scanner and samba support from setup assistant . No I am not familiar with ssh ftp or any communications with computers online . Setup Assistant installs all three at once.

  4. A small question off-topic . Do I need to clean install everytime a new iso is released or a garuda-update with a reboot would just be fine ?

Exigent problems , dont install applications , sorry I dont understand , could you please clarify .

Why does that need to be plugged in?

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I usually keep booting iso(s) sometimes leave it plugged . Could it cause a issue ?

What do you mean, exactly?

No, never, theoretically. Garuda is a rolling release distribution and should be updated regularly, but not re-installed. But what works in theory and in practice can vary from individual-to-individual.

“Exigent” = “currently urgent,pressing” in this case. You already have broken stuff, let’s try not to break any more. :laughing:

All troubleshooting (of every kind) is a process-of-elimination (Sherlock Holmes said it better). The process begins where it ends, then ends where it begins. Confused?

Nap time for gonzo. Back in a few hours. :smiley:

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Va bene sir , there should be two usb(s) , one has ventoy and the other music .

Have a good nap sir!

@Bro that whole explanation about what a train wreck Pamac is, and not a single mention about the time Pamac DDoS’ed the AUR?

It was a major outage. The AUR was inaccessible to users all over the world. Probably never so many hung yays all at once in history.

And then…they did it again!

Oops! What’s that about “twice shy”? :joy:

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Having extraneous, unnecessary things like that causes heartburn and shortens lives, mine specifically. When you get serious about receiving help, others will appreciate if you don’t have any anything extra anywhere. It only compounds problems. :slight_smile:

My Twenty Questions quota has been filled for today. Tomorrow’s another day. :wink:

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Va bene sir ! I will be sure to remove them usb(s) and anything extra aside from it .

I am looking forward to have a share of your questions quota tomorrow sir !

Have a nice day sir !

Regards,
LolFlasherNoobX

Well I do have to mention that I changed some BIOS settings such as sata controller (AHCI and RAID) and virtualization settings. Could those cause issues as well ?

Nvm , just loaded setup defaults in BIOS and reset all settings.

So you are good now and you are up to date and this tread can be closed?

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Nah sir , Garuda had problems with updates and configs so I’ve permanently shifted to Pop Os but surely will be glad to help .

Ya know cannot put corporate work on risk for a distro.

Thanks ! So as you are on now Pop os it can now be closed

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