Ls commands only showing owner but not group

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Failed units:

whenever I use ls instead of it showing me permission, owner, group, bytes date modified, file/dir it is showing me permission, bytes, owner, date modified file/dir

example:

.rw-r--r-- 4.9G alkaizer      4 Jul 21:07  garuda-dr460nized-gaming-linux-zen-240428.iso
.rw-r--r-- 2.7G alkaizer      4 Jul 21:06  garuda-hyprland-linux-zen-240428.iso

Has it always been like this? When I run ls -g it will show owner and group

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Personally I had never noticed that but I think it’s how it works.
In our ~/.config/fish/config.fish, ls is just an alias for eza (previously exa, no more maintained):

I see here the group is still under discussion:

You could adjust the alias, or make a new one, adding the g option e.g.

alias lsg 'eza -alg --color=always --group-directories-first --icons'
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I did just that last night. Im just wondering if this has been the case for some time and I guess the link you shared shows it has been for almost a year now, interesting.

Solution found and done thank you!

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eze also has a “smart group” flag you can pass, which will show the group a file or directory belongs to if the group is different than the owner–otherwise it will collapse to a “:”.

Here is an example of a directory with group ownership that differs from user ownership:

❯ eza -alg --smart-group /var/log
drwxr-xr-x     - root :               23 Mar 12:30 audit
.rw-rw----     0 root utmp             3 Jul 20:19 btmp
.rw-rw----     0 root utmp             1 Jun 21:37 btmp.1
.rw-r--r--  513k root :               14 Jul 11:47 btrbk.log
.rw-------  482k root 10              23 Mar 12:32 Calamares.log
.rw-------  354k root :               23 Mar 12:32 endeavour-install.log
.rw-r-----     0 root :               23 Mar 12:35 firewalld
drwxr-xr-x     - root :               19 Oct  2023 gssproxy
drwxr-sr-x@    - root systemd-journal 23 Mar 12:35 journal
.rw-rw-r--  292k root utmp             5 Jul 20:12 lastlog
drwxr-xr-x     - root :               19 Jan 13:10 old
drwxr-xr-x     - root :                5 Jul 22:05 opendns-fetchstats
.rw-r--r--  379k root :               13 Jul 13:06 pacman.log
drwx------     - root :               23 Mar 12:30 private
.rw-r-----    84 root :               13 Jul 11:21 reboot-recommendation-trigger.log
.rw-r-----  656k root :               14 Jul 11:58 snapper.log
.rw-rw-r--  211k root utmp            14 Jul 11:51 wtmp

Since the user and group ownership are the same in a lot of directories, this feature can help make your terminal output less cluttered.

alias ls 'eza -alg --color=always --group-directories-first --icons --smart-group'
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I like this solution even more. Thank you for letting me know!

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