KDE Dr460nized - Lock Screen asks for Password when there is no Password

Sorry, but I speak English, although Greek. If you prefer Greek, I would be happier! :smiley:

Please, clear up the terminology.

Lock: You need a key to open.
Screensaver: Have a nice image or fractal for pleasure.
Dim/Black Screen: Preserve my monitor’s life.

The setting for Lock, assumes you want to hide your session for privacy.

But you don’t want to lock it, or you do? If you do, you have to set a password.

How more clearly do I have to explain?

No offense… :man_shrugging:

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Well then, the question I have to ask is, if your not concerned about security (as you don't want a password), why not just disable the screen locker.

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@petsam No offense taken. It wasn’t your english that was confusing, it was the statement. Might be a terminology breakdown. I guess my assumption was that the lockscreen would work like windows or mac when no password is set. If no password is set for a windows account, you can still lock the screen and unlock with no password. It seems based on your statement:

But you don’t want to lock it, or you do? If you do, you have to set a password.

Is that I need to have a password set to use the lock screen. Which is fine if this is the answer because then it’s not a ā€œbugā€ but more of a misunderstanding on my part.

Like I said above in the thread, I did set a password to my user, so there is no issue when there is a password, I just thought it was odd that it was still asking for a password when one was not set.

@tbg - 100% could do that, I was just concerned there was an issue as I expected the behavior of the lock screen to be different when no password was set.

I appreciate everyones input here, its pretty awesome to see a forum where the Garuda team is actively supporting their users. I’ve been on many other forumns that end up being community ran, with only automated responses from mod team/dev team.

Boring statement… :sleeping:

In Linux we speak human. They speak their own dialect.
AFAIK KDE does not use/provide a screensaver function. Maybe there is a widget for blanking the screen.
Maybe you may try classic screensaver apps, not KDE/DE specific and use it as you like.

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Boring statement… :sleeping:

I guess ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ, As I said I am a returning linux user after a long time away, still brushing off my assumptions from Windows/Mac. TBH I don’t know why I stopped using Linux, because its way better, just have some growing pains I need to get over.

I guess this is solved?

I don’t know if there is a specific forum for suggestions but the whole reason I went down this rabbit hole was because It wasn’t required to set a password when I first setup the install from the ISO. Once the computer auto locked I was completely locked out.

I would suggest, if possible, having the setup detect if a password was not set and then disabling the screenlocker if no password is set or giving a popup saying that if no password is set it’s recommended to disable the screen locker? Or to be snooty the setup could just require a password! :slight_smile:

Just some ideas. Thanks for the help here.

Nice idea.
But this is not a Garuda capability. I suggest you post this to kde bug tracker. If not already exists.

Linux is extremely security conscious by default, generally setting a password is recommended for security reasons. Have you not considered the security implications if a hacker finds a way to access your account.

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Here is a very old discussion, even before KDE4, about the need of a KDE screensaver. It's fun to read and has some suggestions.

https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=124413

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Not to sound rude or unappreciative of your comment (which is not the intent) but I understand the security implications of it, and I already addressed this in the thread multiple times which is frustrating as it keep being brought up and I don't want the point of my bringing up the lock screen issue to be confused or mistaken.

Just to clarify for the 5th time: I am currently using a password, I opted to not add one during the set up with the intent to add one later because the setup installer let me, once this was done I discovered the issue with the lockscreen.

I use complex passwords for all of my desktops, accounts etc, and use MFA whenever possible. I work in an IT adjacent field and know the importance of passwords and account security. This was never the issue. I bypassed adding a password at install because I was juggling the install and the needs of my toddler and just hit enter to get through the installer faster with the intent of setting up a password later that night after I had more time to tinker.

Since I was able to go through install without setting a password this could be a pittfall that other people not as security conscience may end up falling into which is why I raised it in the first place.

I would recommend that the installer requires a password during the install setup of Garuda if possible. And if it's not then at least there is this thread to clear up the confusion or cause some more depending on how you look at it LOL.

I will look into the KDE Bug tracker to see if they are aware but from what it sounds like this is expected behavior of the lock screen.

Thank you for the input and help.

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Here is a very old discussion, even before KDE4, about the need of a KDE screensaver.

Was there supposed to be a link with your post? :slight_smile: I don’t see a link to any discussion but am interested to read it.

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Thanks. Multitasking with an old brain and you get holes... :sob:

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You can always create a new user and passwd.

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