How to switch to ntfs3 from ntfs3g?

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Hi, I was trying to use the new kernel driver to mount ntfs, I managed to mount it manually, but I wanted it to mount at boot already with ntfs3 instead of older ntfs 3g, but I have no clue about how to do it, also I wondered if it was going to change automatically with a garuda update.
(First time posting here, hope everything is right)

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"Since Linux 5.15, ntfs3 provides read and write support for the file system. All officially supported kernels with versions 5.15 or newer are built with CONFIG_NTFS3_FS=m and thus support it."

Ref: NTFS - ArchWiki

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I haven’t tried this myself because I no longer have any ntfs partitions to test with but it probably depends how you are mounting the device. If you are mounting it in /etc/fstab, it should be as simple as changing the mount options there.

I don’t know what the plans are here but it seems like a fairly bad idea to change this globally since there is no guarantee that the end-user is running kernel 5.15 or later.

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I'm hoping there will be a kernel regression introduced in a few months (that will trigger on April 1st) resulting in all NTFS drives being wiped. :crazy_face: :rofl:

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Thanks for the nudge to shuffle the data around to reformat my external 1TB HDD to Btrfs that I've put off for ..... I can't recall how many years.
I thought it was just stupid right-wingers who fell for obviously made-up fearmongering, apparently this <<< left-winger is also that stupid! :sob: :sob: :sob:

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I am not sure how I am mounting them, I think it's from the settings, removable devices, automount removable devices at logon, but there's nothing in fstab, any idea on where it is writing that setting?

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Install, if needed, gnome-disk-utility.

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If you are automounting them, the easiest solution by far is going to be to add them to /etc/fstab unless they are thumb drives and you have a bunch of them. If they are external drives, use systemd-automount units.

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after some search I think I found what I should add:
/dev/sdc1 /run/media/tabris/Seagate\040Backup\040Plus\040Drive/ ntfs3 auto,rw,user,exec 0 0
is it correct?

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I don't remember the formatting for fstab, however I would recommend using UUID as the identifier rather than /dev/sdx. Less worrying about devices changing order (like when adding/removing drives or failing cables etc).

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thanks, it seems it's working without problems

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this was just added to AUR today:

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ntfsprogs-ntfs3/

replaces ntfs-3g and works perfectly.

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For a manual mount (e.g. removable drives):
$ udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdX -t ntfs3

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