Even simple Wine games cause loud fan sound on Ryzen

[garubob]

I've recently changed over to a Ryzen 5 2400GE system and I decided to give it a try with Garuda. Videos (inc. H/W acc.) and native games work as expected, but whenever I play a game with Wine on any desktop, even if it's a simple 2D platformer like Darkula, I can hear the fan ramp up massively. I previously had a Core i5-8500T and that didn't make anywhere near the same amount of noise. Has anyone got any ideas why it might be doing that? I thought the Vega 11 graphics were supposed to be more powerful than the Intel UHD 630! If it's any help, I've tried other distros and desktops on the same machine and they also make the same loud noise, so it clearly isn't Garuda specific.

Thanks for any help.

System:    Kernel: 5.15.2-zen1-1-zen x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.1.0
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
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           Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: HP product: HP EliteDesk 705 G4 DM 35W v: DBXEnabled
           serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <filter>
           Mobo: HP model: 83E9 v: KBC Version 07.D1.00 serial: <filter> UEFI: HP
           v: Q26 Ver. 02.16.00 date: 04/15/2021
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2400GE w/ Radeon Vega Graphics bits: 64
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           2: 3792 3: 1516 4: 2358 5: 2538 6: 2648 7: 2398 8: 1743
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           Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
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           Device-3: XMOS iFi (by AMR) HD USB Audio type: USB
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           Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.19 running: no
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Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
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           SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
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Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 30.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 62.0 C
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:      Processes: 348 Uptime: 5m wakeups: 0 Memory: 14.64 GiB used: 2.76 GiB (18.9%)
           Init: systemd v: 249 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 11.1.0 clang: 13.0.0 Packages:
           pacman: 1621 lib: 449 flatpak: 0 Client: Unknown Client: garuda-assistant inxi: 3.3.08

[anon92996653]

I just moved from Xubuntu 21.04 and have noticed similar. Super aggressive clocking (Hell Yeah Brother! (read in Hulk Hogans Voice)) and fan ramping but I suspect that is due to the Garuda tuning for gaming. While the game might be simple I suspect there are some things that are just bringing clocks/fans/temps/noise up just because games aren't something you want to underestimate then ramp up once you're lagging, stuttering and realize the application needs more go go juice.

I'd be interested in what a someone who knows the Garuda guts a tad more has to say but it's not just you.

You could try to nerf it though and see how things perform with
cpupower frequency-set -g ondemand / powersave / conservative and see which works best for you (if any change at all).

[garubob]

Thanks very much for your help. I've tried multiple distros now but all have the same result. However, your advice to try 'cpupower frequency-set -g powersave' did the trick! Now I can game without it sounding like an aircraft taking off...

Can you tell me what I need to do to make the change permanent? Thanks again.

[anon92996653]

Yeah I think a lot of distros are now semi trashed due to kernel changes and a massive chunk of the software ecosystem half-arsedly transitioning to Wayland pipewire concepts.

As for the persistent settings;
sudo systemctl enable cpupower
then you can set in the config
/etc/default/cpupower
uncomment the governor line #2 and change it to powersave, save.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/CPU_frequency_scaling

There is a GUI for cpupower too if you want to do the clicky clicky route.

[garubob]

Yeah, this is the first time I've used a Ryzen machine with Linux and I've found you have to have the bios settings exactly right or the installation won't work (blank screen, lock-up, no USB, etc.).

Many thanks.

[anon92996653]

That's odd, never had that issue with Ryzen CPU's. Biggest issue I've had was last week where the mobo shipped without actual BIOS support for the CPU model. That said it's certainly not a Ryzen issue, just the biggest issue I've had building a Ryzen machine. Used to have those issues with AMD and Intel both back in the day. Back then you'd have to pull the damned EPROM chip and send it away to be flashed heh. Everything is so easy these days though I was able to flash the board and away it goes.

Either way glad I could help.