Difference in the internet speed between Live-usb and fully installed system

Hello everyone, i have a weird issue, for some reason i get consistently faster internet speeds between bootable usb and fully installed system :rofl:.

Fully installed Garuda, updated as of today. (obv. nothing was in the background while running speedtest, no torrents, nothing as far as i know)
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System from Live-usb garuda-dr460nized-linux-zen-220909.iso using browser that was shipped with Live-USB aka FireDragon.
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So what i've tried:
• latest FireDragon, Firefox, Google chrome and Brave, all of them gave same speeds within margin of error.
• diffent kernels - Latest Arch, Xanmod-tt 5.15
• Mitigations on/off
• tried on/off Power saving options
• tried on/off Performance options
• tried forcing 1gbit speed in the internet settings --> link negotiation
inxi -Faz from Installed system:

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System:
Kernel: 6.0.2-zen1-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
root=UUID=723b7c64-c203-418d-b27c-4d67f33d0e69 rw [email protected]
quiet quiet splash rd.udev.log_priority=3 vt.global_cursor_default=0
loglevel=3 mitigations=off
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.26.0 tk: Qt v: 5.15.6 info: latte-dock
wm: kwin_x11 vt: 1 dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A
serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Gigabyte model: X79-UP4 v: x.x serial: <superuser required>
UEFI: American Megatrends v: F6a date: 12/18/2013
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Core i7-3930K bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Sandy Bridge
gen: core 3 level: v2 built: 2010-12 process: Intel 32nm family: 6
model-id: 0x2D (45) stepping: 7 microcode: 0x71A
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 1.5 MiB desc: 6x256 KiB
L3: 12 MiB desc: 1x12 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 5695 high: 5900 min/max: 1200/5900 scaling:
driver: intel_cpufreq governor: performance cores: 1: 5900 2: 5900 3: 5900
4: 5900 5: 5900 6: 3442 7: 5900 8: 5900 9: 5900 10: 5900 11: 5900
12: 5900 bogomips: 76803
Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities:
Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: vulnerable
Type: mds status: Vulnerable; SMT vulnerable
Type: meltdown status: Vulnerable
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
Type: spectre_v1 status: Vulnerable: __user pointer sanitization and
usercopy barriers only; no swapgs barriers
Type: spectre_v2 status: Vulnerable, IBPB: disabled, STIBP: disabled,
PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M] vendor: Tul
/ PowerColor driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x
process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1,DP-3 empty: DP-2,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 05:00.0
chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.4 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.3
compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: modesetting,radeon
alternate: fbdev,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1013x285mm (39.88x11.22")
s-diag: 1052mm (41.43")
Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 pos: primary,left model: Samsung
built: 2010 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 55 gamma: 1.2
size: 886x498mm (34.88x19.61") diag: 551mm (21.7") ratio: 16:9 modes:
max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
Monitor-2: DP-3 mapped: DisplayPort-2 pos: primary,right model: LG
(GoldStar) FULL HD serial: <filter> built: 2020 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60
dpi: 102 gamma: 1.2 size: 480x270mm (18.9x10.63") diag: 551mm (21.7")
ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navi22 LLVM 14.0.6 DRM 3.48
6.0.2-zen1-1-zen) v: 4.6 Mesa 22.2.1 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel C600/X79 series High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1d20
class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 05:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28
class-ID: 0403
Sound API: ALSA v: k6.0.2-zen1-1-zen running: yes
Sound Interface: sndio v: N/A running: no
Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: no
Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.59 running: yes
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Gigabyte driver: e1000e
v: kernel port: f040 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:1502 class-ID: 0200
IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 592.05 GiB used: 23.46 GiB (4.0%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 250GB
size: 232.89 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 4B6Q scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Gigabyte model: GP-GSTFS31120GNTD
size: 111.79 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 11.3 scheme: GPT
ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Samsung model: HM250HI
size: 232.88 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 01C4 scheme: GPT
ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra Fit
size: 14.48 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A
serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 111.49 GiB size: 111.49 GiB (100.00%) used: 16.12 GiB
(14.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%) used: 608 KiB
(0.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17
ID-3: /home raw-size: 111.49 GiB size: 111.49 GiB (100.00%) used: 16.12
GiB (14.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18
ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 111.49 GiB size: 111.49 GiB (100.00%) used: 16.12
GiB (14.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18
ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 111.49 GiB size: 111.49 GiB (100.00%) used: 16.12
GiB (14.5%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 31.27 GiB used: 1.5 MiB (0.0%)
priority: 100 dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 32.0 C
mem: 30.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Info:
Processes: 305 Uptime: 43m wakeups: 0 Memory: 31.27 GiB used: 3.19 GiB
(10.2%) Init: systemd v: 251 default: graphical tool: systemctl
Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 clang: 14.0.6 Packages: pm: pacman pkgs: 1482
libs: 478 tools: octopi,pamac,paru Shell: fish v: 3.5.1 default: Bash
v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.22

inxi -Faz from Live-USB:

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System:
Kernel: 5.19.7-zen2-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-x86_64 lang=en_US keytable=us tz=UTC
misobasedir=garuda misolabel=GARUDA_DR460NIZED_TALON quiet
systemd.show_status=1 driver=free nouveau.modeset=1 i915.modeset=1
radeon.modeset=1
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.25.5 tk: Qt v: 5.15.6 info: latte-dock
wm: kwin_x11 vt: 1 dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A
serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 3 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Gigabyte model: X79-UP4 v: x.x serial: <superuser required>
UEFI: American Megatrends v: F6a date: 12/18/2013
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Core i7-3930K bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Sandy Bridge
gen: core 3 built: 2010-12 process: Intel 32nm family: 6
model-id: 0x2D (45) stepping: 7 microcode: 0x71A
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 1.5 MiB desc: 6x256 KiB
L3: 12 MiB desc: 1x12 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 2125 high: 5900 min/max: 1200/5900 scaling:
driver: intel_cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 1200 2: 1200 3: 1200
4: 3800 5: 1200 6: 5000 7: 5900 8: 1200 9: 1200 10: 1200 11: 1200
12: 1200 bogomips: 76802
Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities:
Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT
vulnerable
Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW,
STIBP: conditional, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Navi 22 [Radeon RX 6700/6700 XT/6750 XT / 6800M] vendor: Tul
/ PowerColor driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x
process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1,DP-3 empty: DP-2,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 05:00.0
chip-ID: 1002:73df class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.4 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.3
compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: modesetting,radeon
alternate: fbdev,vesa gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1013x285mm (39.88x11.22")
s-diag: 1052mm (41.43")
Monitor-1: DP-1 mapped: DisplayPort-0 pos: primary,left model: Samsung
built: 2010 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 55 gamma: 1.2
size: 886x498mm (34.88x19.61") diag: 551mm (21.7") ratio: 16:9 modes:
max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
Monitor-2: DP-3 mapped: DisplayPort-2 pos: right model: LG (GoldStar)
FULL HD serial: <filter> built: 2020 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102
gamma: 1.2 size: 480x270mm (18.9x10.63") diag: 551mm (21.7") ratio: 16:9
modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT (navy_flounder LLVM 14.0.6 DRM
3.47 5.19.7-zen2-1-zen) v: 4.6 Mesa 22.1.7 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel C600/X79 series High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1d20
class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 05:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28
class-ID: 0403
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.19.7-zen2-1-zen running: yes
Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: no
Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.57 running: yes
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Gigabyte driver: e1000e
v: kernel port: f040 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:1502 class-ID: 0200
IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 592.05 GiB used: 102.16 GiB (17.3%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 250GB
size: 232.89 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 4B6Q scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Gigabyte model: GP-GSTFS31120GNTD
size: 111.79 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 11.3 scheme: GPT
ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Samsung model: HM250HI
size: 232.88 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 01C4 scheme: GPT
ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Ultra Fit
size: 14.48 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A
serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
Message: No partition data found.
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 31.27 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 33.0 C
mem: 30.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: amdgpu fan: 0
Info:
Processes: 306 Uptime: 12m wakeups: 0 Memory: 31.27 GiB used: 3.31 GiB
(10.6%) Init: systemd v: 251 default: graphical tool: systemctl
Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: pacman: 1181 lib: 303 Shell: fish v: 3.5.1
default: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.20
McFly: Importing shell history for the first time. This may take a minute or two...done.

:thinking:

Not exactly sure what revision of the board you are using, but both rev. 1.0 and rev. 1.1 have a F7 version of the BIOS out now. Rev. 1.0 board's bios update seems rather important as it "Improve system compatibility".

Kind of a random try at this, I know :sweat_smile:. Still, even the linux-firmware package has been updated since the since the ISO (not just kernel versions). That ISO has linux-firmware 20220815.8413c63-1 and the current from Arch's Core repo is linux-firmware 20220913.f09bebf-1

If updating BIOS don't work, I'm sure one of our networking experts can chime in on other ideas :slightly_smiling_face:
(I'll move you thread to networking because its mostly related to that)

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@Kayo board rev. is 1.0.
F7 has weird stability issues for me, while under overclocking, RAM overclocking to be more specific. Also I've modded F6a with latest (2020~ish latest :smile:) intel microcodes updates and drivers, those do not fit on the F7 bios and F8 beta bioses :cry:

Sorry to hear that it doesn't fit your use case, and it looks like you done a lot of modding as you have said.
I know you have tried other kernels, but maybe LTS kernel might play better with that kind of wild configuration? I've had better luck with it on err... stubborn boards and CPUs.

weird, so i tried speedtest-cli++, and speed is within of what my ISP is advertising, soooo this is a browser issue after all?

╭─[email protected] in ~ took 12s
╰─λ speedtest++
SpeedTest++ version 1.14
Speedtest.net command line interface
Info: https://github.com/taganaka/SpeedTest
Author: Francesco Laurita <[email protected]>

IP: 80.77.40.46 ( Private Joint Stock Company datagroup ) Location: [46.6511, 32.6138]
Finding fastest server... 10 Servers online
..........
Server: Kropyvnytskyi speedtest.imperial.net.ua:8080 by ISP Imperial (208.752 km from you): 15 ms
Ping: 15 ms.
Jitter: 0 ms.
Determine line type (2) ........................
Fiber / Lan line type detected: profile selected fiber

Testing download speed (32) ...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Download: 948.79 Mbit/s
Testing upload speed (12) ...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Upload: 934.23 Mbit/s

But how can all of them have the same behaviour?

Is speedtest.net in a browser selecting servers based on what system locale is or smth?

Unsure since I haven't kept up with that site in some time; but I would make note of the test servers next time you run them if you can.
(I've switched to using speedof.me for quite some time now and tells me which test server it has used, by having its location name and server number beside it)

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speedtest.net is just not consistent, always selects suboptimal test servers, from now on i will test using speedtest++.

Thx for your help @Kayo

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