Cannot disable "No tilebar and frame" window setting for some application


I am trying to uncheck the "no tilebar and frame" for some of my applications' settings (you can see it by pressing alt-F3 > More actions).

I usually do it by adding a kde window rule for the application.
In the rule, I add "No tilebar and frame" in the appearance & Fixes" category. I set it to "apply initially".
It works for applications such as Emacs, Konsole, etc. But the setting seems to be overridden for apps like Discord, Firefox-developer Edition, BitWarden and Firedragon.

It works if I set it to "force" instead of "apply initially". But I don't want it to be like that.
(the reason is that unchecking "no tilebar and frame' allows my window decorations to display the borders, but I don't want the border when the window is maximized. Using "force" forces the border to be there all the time).

So I am trying to either prevent my settings to be overridden, or to force them except when the window is maximized.

Any ideas?

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