Build all the things locally

Does anyone have any recommended tutorials/build notes/git repository/etc suggestions for building updates(arch/aur/chaotic/garuda) for garuda?

With the recent decision of starlink to limit customer monthly usage to a mear 1tb i am trying to find solutions to keeping my garuda systems up to date(starlink claims it is for residential customers, but my boss says that we are on a business plan that is getting data usage warnings as well). Bringing updates from home(i HAVE been doing that the other way round) isn't really an option as my home isp thinks that 15gb is enough (high speed data) and 600kbps(that is 600 kilo BITS per second) is good enough for "unlimited data" after that high speed cap has been hit. I am already caching as many updates as possible, but i need to further reduce the data usage. The only solution i can see is building EVERYTHING locally.

If you are having an issue with updates that are excessively large, it'd be good to find out which packages are the biggest.
List and sort your stuff:

pacman -Qi | gawk '/^Name/ { x = $3 }; /^Installed Size/ { sub(/Installed Size  *:/, ""); print x":" $0 }' | sort -k2,3nr | grep -v " B" | grep -v " KiB"

You can upload your list here if you'd like more input, it might not fit in a forum post:

Since your IP / location might be changing rapidly on Starlink, you should use the automatically routed Chaotic mirror: https://geo-mirror.chaotic.cx


Do you have more than one PC that needs updates?

If yes:

If no:

  • you gain nothing but a higher CPU load from a local repository in most cases, and you should continue to rely on Chaotic-AUR to compile some packages. Many times during build processes you have to clone multiple entire git repositories, which can be very unpleasant on a bad connection, and chew through data depending on the project. Packages from Chaotic are stripped and compressed, and only one download.
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I use pacoloco(GitHub - anatol/pacoloco: Caching proxy server for Arch Linux pacman) to cache my garuda updates. been trying to convince the boss to let me have some DNS fun(https://lancache.net) and i do seem to have a few things that i build locally(one foot out the door, will list later). looking to do the builds local, yes it will be a pain. but that is why i have access to that... thing overthere.

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grrr, won't let me edit, sigh

here at home my pacoloco.yaml file lists https://us-ca-mirror.chaotic.cx for my chaotic/garuda uses. for SOME REASON even though i am not on starlink here, geo-mirror was tossing me all over the world.

yay it let me edit this time

mihoshi

pacman -Qi | gawk '/^Name/ { x = $3 }; /^Installed Size/ { sub(/Installed Size  *:/, ""); print x":" $0 }' | sort -k2,3nr | grep -v " B" | grep -v " KiB"



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Try Gentoo :rofl:

while that IS indeed a good idea, i would rather "stand on the shoulders of giants". Garuda KDE Dragonized Gaming Edition does what I want to do great. The devs keep everything going great so a gamer doesn't need to do all the research for making games work great. why would i want to add all that research to my own time?

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geo-mirror does have some randomization in it occasionally, but it should not be fully random unless the geographically closest mirror has been constantly going down while you happen to be using it, or if a file is not yet synced there. Are you in dead space between multiple mirrors? Chaotic-AUR Map. What does this report if you refresh it occasionally? Is it always random? https://status.chaotic.cx/geo

I see multiple kernels, do you intend to have all of them? What about Chome, Chromium, Librewolf, and Firedragon? Thunderbird? Wow cuda is huge at 5.1GB!

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Thanks for the reminder on cuda, i forgot about it. since basically nothing i have has nvidia, that can be nuked. Some of what i do at work is "web development" so I am testing with all the browsers so that "has to" stay. My "ISP" at home is a 4glte hotspot, "constantly" changing my ip/geo-location. sometimes i am near Albuquerque, NM, usa, sometimes i am near Pheonix. Arizona, usa... my hotspot is still physically in the same location(not near either).

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You can hold proton-ge-custom and wine-staging. These update quite often and holding them back shouldn't bring the rest of the system down.

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While I agree they won't bring the system down if they're held a while, the downside is remembering they have been held. I've gotten nothing but performance increases as Wine and Proton updates. :stuck_out_tongue:

Glad caching is figured out, and good to see cuda go! Thanks for linking to pacoloco it somehow flew under my radar.

Pacoloco is great. my only "complaint" about it is that i can't set the "prefetching" to grab updates from chaotic/garuda. but that may be an "easy fix" in the next update. or maybe the one after...

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I see at least 5 web browsers, my guess is 2 of them would meet your needs. I would think chromium would use less data than Google chrome, but I find google chrome is slightly faster. I do love librewolf, and haven't touched firefox in at least a year. Fire Dragon just seems redundant. In theory Brave browsers block some content, if you rely on ublock or other ad-blockers to restrict data than Brave will be your only real choice in the future. I know browser choice is the 3rd rail in forums because people are rightly passionate about their preferences.

Google chrome
chromium
firefox
firedragon
librewolf

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not saying you are wrong. But, things are complimicated and even explaining the complications will likely make every IT person here in the forums have spastic eye-twitches.

EVERY installed browser is used daily.

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Browsers will create their own caches and automatically fill them by downloading stuff. If you stop using at least some of the browsers, you will download less.

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you aren't wrong, that is a very browser thing they do. but the only overlap of "websites" they visit are locally hosted Lan sites.

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