System lags when starting any program

Hey there,

I’ve had this issue for quite a while but figured it may be gone with some update or the like but had no luck since then.

To be exact:
Whenever I start any program, be it discord, steam, brave or any game, my system becomes very unresponsive for the next 10-40 seconds or however long it takes to start that application.
This also slows down and/or freeze the mouse cursor and any other animations that may be happening in the background.
After the program has started everything goes back to being fine.
Steam in particular has this issue quite alot. Whenever I open it or any game inside of steam I can expect to wait a minute before the game actually is open (or visible at least).

I’ve inspected my htop during those events and noticed that every time it freezes any core is at 100%. While most others are <5%.

The mouse freezing could originate from me using a Bluetooth mouse which is plugged in however. So I’m not sure if that’s really the case.

Is there anything else I could check?

System:
  Kernel: 6.5.9-zen2-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.1
    clocksource: tsc available: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
    root=UUID=43b24c17-d93b-422c-86a9-512969a67d2a rw rootflags=subvol=@
    quiet quiet rd.udev.log_priority=3 vt.global_cursor_default=0 loglevel=3
    ibt=off
  Desktop: GNOME v: 45.1 tk: GTK v: 3.24.38 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM
    v: 45.0.1 Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: N/A
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO v: Rev X.0x
    serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 3601 date: 05/26/2021
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X socket: AM4 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Zen 3+ gen: 4 level: v3 note: check built: 2022 process: TSMC n6 (7nm)
    family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x21 (33) stepping: 0 microcode: 0xA201016
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 512 KiB desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB
    L3: 32 MiB desc: 1x32 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3800 min/max: 2200/4850 boost: enabled
    base/boost: 3800/4850 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: performance
    volts: 1.1 V ext-clock: 100 MHz cores: 1: 3800 2: 3800 3: 3800 4: 3800
    5: 3800 6: 3800 7: 3800 8: 3800 9: 3800 10: 3800 11: 3800 12: 3800
    13: 3800 14: 3800 15: 3800 16: 3800 bogomips: 121600
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 535.113.01
    alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 535.xx+
    status: current (as of 2023-09) arch: Maxwell code: GMxxx
    process: TSMC 28nm built: 2014-19 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 0a:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:17c8 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-3:2
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102
  Display: server: X.Org v: 21.1.9 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.2
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: nvidia gpu: nvidia display-ID: :1
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 92 s-size: 1060x301mm (41.73x11.85")
    s-diag: 1102mm (43.38")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 pos: primary,left res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92
    size: 531x299mm (20.91x11.77") diag: 609mm (23.99") modes: N/A
  Monitor-2: DP-3 pos: right res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92
    size: 531x299mm (20.91x11.77") diag: 609mm (23.99") modes: N/A
  API: EGL Message: No EGL data available.
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 vendor: nvidia v: 535.113.01 glx-v: 1.4
    direct-render: yes renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
    memory: 5.86 GiB
  API: Vulkan v: 1.3.269 layers: 1 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu name: NVIDIA
    GeForce GTX 980 Ti driver: nvidia v: 535.113.01 device-ID: 10de:17c8
    surfaces: xcb,xlib
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GM200 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb0
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 0c:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-3:2
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102
  Device-4: Focusrite-Novation Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen
    driver: snd-usb-audio type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0
    bus-ID: 5-2:3 chip-ID: 1235:8202 class-ID: 0102
  API: ALSA v: k6.5.9-zen2-1-zen status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: sndiod v: N/A status: off tools: aucat,midicat,sndioctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.83 status: n/a (root, process) with:
    1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active
    3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 04:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp4s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igb v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 05:00.0
    chip-ID: 8086:1539 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp5s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2723 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp6s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-6:7 chip-ID: 8087:0029
    class-ID: e001
  Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 5.2
    lmp-v: 11 status: discoverable: no pairing: no class-ID: 7c0104
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 5.68 TiB used: 1.33 TiB (23.3%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung
    model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 3B2QEXM7 temp: 40.9 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes health: PASSED on: 290d 12h cycles: 983
    read-units: 31,326,444 [16.0 TB] written-units: 128,241,601 [65.6 TB]
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Toshiba model: Q300. size: 223.57 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B sata: 3.1 speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 12.3 temp: 26 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 3y 58d 9h cycles: 3484
  ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 1TB
    family: based SSDs size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B sata: 3.3 speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 1B6Q temp: 26 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 367d 18h cycles: 982
    written: 6.84 TiB Pre-Fail: reallocated sector: 98 threshold: 10
  ID-4: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 QVO 4TB
    family: based SSDs size: 3.64 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B
    sata: 3.3 speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q
    temp: 28 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 1y 26d 1h cycles: 1038
    written: 23.78 TiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 340.59 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 576 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat block-size: 512 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 340.59 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
  ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 340.59 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
  ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 340.59 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 31.25 GiB used: 29.5 MiB (0.1%)
    priority: 100 comp: zstd avail: lzo,lzo-rle,lz4,lz4hc,842 max-streams: 16
    dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0 C mobo: 29.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 51 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): cpu: 0 gpu: nvidia fan: 22%
Info:
  Processes: 463 Uptime: 4h 38m wakeups: 0 Memory: total: 32 GiB
  available: 31.25 GiB used: 6.74 GiB (21.6%) Init: systemd v: 254
  default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.2.1 Packages:
  pm: pacman pkgs: 1477 libs: 504 tools: pamac,paru Shell: garuda-inxi (sudo)
  default: Bash v: 5.2.15 running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.30
Garuda (2.6.17-1):
  System install date:     2023-09-23
  Last full system update: 2023-11-02 ↻
  Is partially upgraded:   No
  Relevant software:       snapper NetworkManager dracut nvidia-dkms
  Windows dual boot:       No/Undetected
  Failed units: 

Please see if a reboot helps any. :slight_smile:

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Well, I have this issue for at least a month now. And have restarted my system multiple times a day.

That’s nice. Please understand; when a reboot is needed all bets are off the table.

Please tell us everything you have done to try solving your problem. What does your research show? Google results? What have you read, what have you tried, and what error messages have you received?

Problem solving is interactive; you have to do your part.

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I would start by updating your BIOS to the latest version and seeing if that helps. There has been quite a number of BIOS releases since that version. A good number of them state either compatibility, stability, or performance improvements.

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  • Rebooting the system
  • Updating the system with update
  • Reinstalling the applications/games
  • Reinstalling Garuda

I can also provide a video of this happening:

Can’t say I’ve done that before but surely can’t hurt right?
I’ll see if that resolves or lightens some of those issues :slight_smile:

Edit after Update:
While I can confirm that things seem to be way faster now (like loading times). I still have the very same issue regarding the lag seen in that video I posted. :confused:

Here’s my updated inxi:

System:
  Kernel: 6.5.9-zen2-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.1
    clocksource: tsc available: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
    root=UUID=43b24c17-d93b-422c-86a9-512969a67d2a rw rootflags=subvol=@
    quiet quiet rd.udev.log_priority=3 vt.global_cursor_default=0 loglevel=3
    ibt=off
  Desktop: GNOME v: 45.1 tk: GTK v: 3.24.38 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM
    v: 45.0.1 Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: N/A
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO v: Rev X.0x
    serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 4702 date: 10/20/2023
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X socket: AM4 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Zen 3+ gen: 4 level: v3 note: check built: 2022 process: TSMC n6 (7nm)
    family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x21 (33) stepping: 0 microcode: 0xA20102B
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 512 KiB desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB
    L3: 32 MiB desc: 1x32 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3800 min/max: 2200/4850 boost: enabled
    base/boost: 3800/4850 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: performance
    volts: 1.1 V ext-clock: 100 MHz cores: 1: 3800 2: 3800 3: 3800 4: 3800
    5: 3800 6: 3800 7: 3800 8: 3800 9: 3800 10: 3800 11: 3800 12: 3800
    13: 3800 14: 3800 15: 3800 16: 3800 bogomips: 121611
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 535.113.01
    alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 535.xx+
    status: current (as of 2023-09) arch: Maxwell code: GMxxx
    process: TSMC 28nm built: 2014-19 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16
    link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 0a:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:17c8
    class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-3:2
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102
  Display: server: X.Org v: 21.1.9 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.2
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: nvidia gpu: nvidia display-ID: :1
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 92 s-size: 1060x301mm (41.73x11.85")
    s-diag: 1102mm (43.38")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 pos: primary,left res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92
    size: 531x299mm (20.91x11.77") diag: 609mm (23.99") modes: N/A
  Monitor-2: DP-3 pos: right res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92
    size: 531x299mm (20.91x11.77") diag: 609mm (23.99") modes: N/A
  API: EGL Message: No EGL data available.
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 vendor: nvidia v: 535.113.01 glx-v: 1.4
    direct-render: yes renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
    memory: 5.86 GiB
  API: Vulkan v: 1.3.269 layers: 1 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu name: NVIDIA
    GeForce GTX 980 Ti driver: nvidia v: 535.113.01 device-ID: 10de:17c8
    surfaces: xcb,xlib
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GM200 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb0
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 0c:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-3:2
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102
  Device-4: Focusrite-Novation Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen
    driver: snd-usb-audio type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0
    bus-ID: 5-2:3 chip-ID: 1235:8202 class-ID: 0102
  API: ALSA v: k6.5.9-zen2-1-zen status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: sndiod v: N/A status: off tools: aucat,midicat,sndioctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.83 status: n/a (root, process) with:
    1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active
    3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 04:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp4s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igb v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 05:00.0
    chip-ID: 8086:1539 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp5s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2723 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp6s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-6:7 chip-ID: 8087:0029
    class-ID: e001
  Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 5.2
    lmp-v: 11 status: discoverable: no pairing: no class-ID: 7c0104
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 5.68 TiB used: 1.33 TiB (23.3%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung
    model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 3B2QEXM7 temp: 42.9 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes health: PASSED on: 290d 12h cycles: 983
    read-units: 31,331,563 [16.0 TB] written-units: 128,244,686 [65.6 TB]
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Toshiba model: Q300. size: 223.57 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B sata: 3.1 speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 12.3 temp: 26 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 3y 58d 10h cycles: 3484
  ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 1TB
    family: based SSDs size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B sata: 3.3 speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 1B6Q temp: 26 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 367d 19h cycles: 982
    written: 6.84 TiB Pre-Fail: reallocated sector: 98 threshold: 10
  ID-4: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 QVO 4TB
    family: based SSDs size: 3.64 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B
    sata: 3.3 speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q
    temp: 28 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 1y 26d 1h cycles: 1038
    written: 23.79 TiB
  ID-5: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Verbatim model: STORE N GO
    size: 7.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB rev: 2.0
    spd: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 tech: N/A serial: <filter> fw-rev: 1.0
    scheme: GPT
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 340.63 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 576 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat block-size: 512 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 340.63 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
  ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 340.63 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
  ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 340.63 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 31.25 GiB used: 512 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
    comp: zstd avail: lzo,lzo-rle,lz4,lz4hc,842 max-streams: 16 dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: 29.0 C gpu: nvidia temp: 57 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): cpu: 0 gpu: nvidia fan: 22%
Info:
  Processes: 459 Uptime: 3m wakeups: 0 Memory: total: 32 GiB
  available: 31.26 GiB used: 4.83 GiB (15.4%) Init: systemd v: 254
  default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.2.1 Packages:
  pm: pacman pkgs: 1477 libs: 504 tools: pamac,paru Shell: garuda-inxi (sudo)
  default: Bash v: 5.2.15 running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.30
Garuda (2.6.17-1):
  System install date:     2023-09-23
  Last full system update: 2023-11-02
  Is partially upgraded:   No
  Relevant software:       snapper NetworkManager dracut nvidia-dkms
  Windows dual boot:       No/Undetected
  Failed units:
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I think trying to preload shaders for a game loaded while a video is going and moving a window around will cause some lag in most systems.
Not to mention, I think Warframe might have issues of keeping preloaded shaders around. I’ve disabled preloading of shaders for that game and just let them do their thing as I play the game, and once the dust settles (going to new places for the first time, etc) it works great.

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Well using warframe Was just an example. Ot also happens with steam itself or any other program for that matter. I can make another Video later which would better reflect it.

Try other kernel linux-amd-znver3 6.6 + headers

BTW, I have no lags on my PC’s with Garuda (up from 2008).

amd_pstate=active

And I get only 1 BIOS update on all the mother boards :frowning: :smiley: :wink: (AMD Medion zero).

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Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO (WI-FI) v: Rev X.0x
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 4201
    date: 04/26/2022
Oooppps, without M$ I forget to check :-D

ROG CROSSHAIR VIII HERO(WI-FI) BIOS 4702

Version 4702

20.83 MB 2023/11/01

"Update AGESA version to ComboV2PI 1.2.0.B

Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (C8HW.CAP) using BIOSRenamer."

This has been a huge issue for me too, both on KDE and Qtile. After following the guide on the Arch wiki, it’s made it a lot better.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Steam/Troubleshooting#Slow_and_unresponsive_user_interface

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It looks like things are improving for you. :smiley:

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So apparently I’d assume I need to start the boot options manager for that right? Not sure why but that one doesn’t start up at all. I’ll try a restart and see if it then works.

This hardware acceleration was disabled by default it appears. I also ran the Steam Runtime System information which greeted me with a whole ton of lines. I’ve pasted it into here if anyone is interested.

Okay I’ve changed the kernel, but it doesn’t seem to have had any effect whatsoever.
I’d still rather stick to that kernel anyway right?

Updated inxi again~

System:
  Kernel: 6.6.0-AMD-znver3 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.1
    clocksource: tsc available: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-amd-znver3
    root=UUID=43b24c17-d93b-422c-86a9-512969a67d2a rw rootflags=subvol=@
    quiet quiet rd.udev.log_priority=3 vt.global_cursor_default=0 loglevel=3
    ibt=off
  Desktop: GNOME v: 45.1 tk: GTK v: 3.24.38 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM
    v: 45.0.1 Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: N/A
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG CROSSHAIR VIII DARK HERO v: Rev X.0x
    serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 4702 date: 10/20/2023
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X socket: AM4 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Zen 3+ gen: 4 level: v3 note: check built: 2022 process: TSMC n6 (7nm)
    family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x21 (33) stepping: 0 microcode: 0xA20102B
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 8 tpc: 2 threads: 16 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 512 KiB desc: d-8x32 KiB; i-8x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 8x512 KiB
    L3: 32 MiB desc: 1x32 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3800 min/max: 2200/4850 boost: enabled
    base/boost: 3800/4850 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: performance
    volts: 1.1 V ext-clock: 100 MHz cores: 1: 3800 2: 3800 3: 3800 4: 3800
    5: 3800 6: 3800 7: 3800 8: 3800 9: 3800 10: 3800 11: 3800 12: 3800
    13: 3800 14: 3800 15: 3800 16: 3800 bogomips: 121658
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities: <filter>
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 535.113.01
    alternate: nvidia_drm non-free: 545.xx+ status: current (as of 2023-10;
    EOL~2026-12-xx) arch: Maxwell code: GMxxx process: TSMC 28nm
    built: 2014-2019 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 0a:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:17c8 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-3:2
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102
  Display: server: X.Org v: 21.1.9 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.2
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: nvidia gpu: nvidia display-ID: :1
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 92 s-size: 1060x301mm (41.73x11.85")
    s-diag: 1102mm (43.38")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 pos: primary,left res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92
    size: 531x299mm (20.91x11.77") diag: 609mm (23.99") modes: N/A
  Monitor-2: DP-3 pos: right res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 92
    size: 531x299mm (20.91x11.77") diag: 609mm (23.99") modes: N/A
  API: EGL Message: No EGL data available.
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 vendor: nvidia v: 535.113.01 glx-v: 1.4
    direct-render: yes renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
    memory: 5.86 GiB
  API: Vulkan v: 1.3.269 layers: 1 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu name: NVIDIA
    GeForce GTX 980 Ti driver: nvidia v: 535.113.01 device-ID: 10de:17c8
    surfaces: xcb,xlib
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GM200 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb0
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 0c:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Logitech C920 PRO HD Webcam driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
    type: USB rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-3:2
    chip-ID: 046d:08e5 class-ID: 0102
  Device-4: Focusrite-Novation Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 2nd Gen
    driver: snd-usb-audio type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0
    bus-ID: 5-2:3 chip-ID: 1235:8202 class-ID: 0102
  API: ALSA v: k6.6.0-AMD-znver3 status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: sndiod v: N/A status: off tools: aucat,midicat,sndioctl
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.84 status: n/a (root, process) with:
    1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active
    3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin 4: pw-jack type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 04:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp4s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel I211 Gigabit Network vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igb v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 05:00.0
    chip-ID: 8086:1539 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp5s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-3: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2723 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp6s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-6:7 chip-ID: 8087:0029
    class-ID: e001
  Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 5.2
    lmp-v: 11 status: discoverable: no pairing: no class-ID: 7c0104
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 5.68 TiB used: 1.33 TiB (23.3%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung
    model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 1TB size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 3B2QEXM7 temp: 39.9 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes health: PASSED on: 290d 12h cycles: 984
    read-units: 31,352,623 [16.0 TB] written-units: 128,258,192 [65.6 TB]
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Toshiba model: Q300. size: 223.57 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B sata: 3.1 speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 12.3 temp: 24 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 3y 58d 11h cycles: 3485
  ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 1TB
    family: based SSDs size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B sata: 3.3 speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 1B6Q temp: 24 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 367d 20h cycles: 983
    written: 6.84 TiB Pre-Fail: reallocated sector: 98 threshold: 10
  ID-4: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 QVO 4TB
    family: based SSDs size: 3.64 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B
    sata: 3.3 speed: 6.0 Gb/s tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q
    temp: 26 C scheme: GPT
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 1y 26d 3h cycles: 1039
    written: 23.8 TiB
  ID-5: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Verbatim model: STORE N GO
    size: 7.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: USB rev: 2.0
    spd: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 tech: N/A serial: <filter> fw-rev: 1.0
    scheme: GPT
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 341 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 576 KiB (0.2%) fs: vfat block-size: 512 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
    maj-min: 259:1
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 341 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
  ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 341 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
  ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 931.22 GiB size: 931.22 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 341 GiB (36.6%) fs: btrfs block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
    maj-min: 259:2
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 31.27 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
    comp: zstd avail: lzo,lzo-rle,lz4,lz4hc,842 max-streams: 16 dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 53 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 22%
Info:
  Processes: 459 Uptime: 2m wakeups: 0 Memory: total: 32 GiB
  available: 31.27 GiB used: 4.8 GiB (15.4%) Init: systemd v: 254
  default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.2.1 Packages:
  pm: pacman pkgs: 1476 libs: 504 tools: pamac,paru Shell: garuda-inxi (sudo)
  default: Bash v: 5.2.15 running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.31
Garuda (2.6.17-1):
  System install date:     2023-09-23
  Last full system update: 2023-11-03
  Is partially upgraded:   No
  Relevant software:       snapper NetworkManager dracut nvidia-dkms
  Windows dual boot:       No/Undetected
  Failed units:
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Yes, add

to kernel parameter, use garuda-boot-options, the easy way :slight_smile:

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I did that but can’t notice any difference :confused:

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