Plasma Shell freezes upon boot after updating

I finally had to make an account to post because I have not found a fix or cause of the issue I’m running into and need some help on this. I hadn’t had a chance to update in about a month and after doing so I can not get anything in the desktop to respond about 30 seconds after login.

Right click won’t bring up menus the upper pannel won’t do anything as well as quicklauch apps (this is in wayland) X11 just flat out freezes can’t even bring up a terminal. If I go back to my last snapshot everything works fine I’ve removed any orphaned packages that have remained after updating with no luck or even reading about this happening to anyone else here or on KDE’s forum so I’m stumped as to what it could be.
Any suggestions would be welcomed.

Kernel: 6.9.2-zen1-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.1.1
clocksource: hpet avail: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
root=UUID=d132b74f-6050-4c33-99b1-9fb67039ea09 rw rootflags=subvol=@
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Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.0.5 tk: Qt v: N/A info: frameworks v: 6.2.0
wm: kwin_wayland vt: 1 dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda base: Arch Linux
Type: Desktop Mobo: Micro-Star model: B450I GAMING PLUS MAX WIFI (MS-7A40)
v: 2.0 serial: <superuser required> uuid: <superuser required>
UEFI: American Megatrends v: B.00 date: 08/20/2020
Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics bits: 64
type: MT MCP arch: Zen/Zen+ note: check gen: 1 level: v3 note: check
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Windows dual boot:       No/Undetected
Failed units:            fancontrol.service

Try switching to the LTS kernel to test if the issue is kernel-related.

hi welcome youre long time user btw;)

Thats the problem if you remove orphaned Packages. Most people having issues with these here or other forums.

Its because some other packages need them and its deleted and the system crash. i dont know how you did but i only want remove discover and found the terminal typing like this

pacman -Rnsc discover  (Rnsc devil)

biggest misstake because Rnsc isnt right it delete more as you want and system broke with other issues.

Dont use Rnsc or Rns in that case only -R for Remove.
Then you dont have issues to reinstall it if you need it back again and dont delete to much pagackes on same time.(or take screenshots of it)

Your snapshot is working then you can try again the update if you see any terminal error because server download issue (or other red warnings)you can run this before you restart and having issues garuda-update remote fullfix that helped me out many times if i see error in the update or upgrade progress;)

Tried switch to LTS, as well as others same thing happens with all kernels. rolled back and tried the remote fullfix to update same thing after it updates. Only thing I have noticed going through this a few dozen times now the inxi isn’t showing a version for QT which is tied to the shell is it not?

This is normal, no need to panic.

Something is disturbing plasma.
Reload the last working snapshot and remove all widgets from the top panel so that only the KDE widgets “Application Launcher”, “Clock” and “System Tray” are left. Uninstall user-created widgets and themes. Then change the global theme to Breeze and try a garuda-update again.


It also wouldn’t hurt to create a new user account to see if a new user has the same problem.


Same thing happens as before after updating from the snapshot something had to corrupted in my configs somehow but I had no errors in the terminal after the update for anything. Either way the new user after the update was the same way.

But a new user in the snapshot worked I copied all the configs related to plasma updated then edited them in my main account now its working again. I have no idea what was actually dureing the update but those are now on my messed something up again usb so if it happens again after an update I can just edit it back in.

Thank you never ran into something like this before and I’m not great with linux but I can usually find a similar problem and work it out from there.


You really should install a backup program for your user’s home directory. You could include your home in your snapshots if you’d like a little more protection. However, snapshots are not a proper backup solution. For it to be considered a comprehensive backup solution you should be saving your user data to a different drive, (preferably an external drive and/or the cloud).

Snapshots are not the same as backups.


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