Actually this is how i solved the alsa part for future reference:
echo "options snd-aloop index=0 id=MyLoop pcm_substreams=4" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/snd-aloop.conf
(this would make a new device at index 0, that will likely fail for most people since index 0 is usually the physical speaker or monitor; with id MyLoop, that is like node.name; and makes 4 ports)
and later i used:
nano /etc/modprobe.d/snd-aloop.conf
and changed the contents to:
options snd-aloop enable=1,1 id=AVdevice,AVmic pcm_substreams=2,2
(this enables 2 devices, with ids AVdevice and AVmic, and 2 ports)
Then i did:
echo "snd_aloop" | sudo tee /etc/modules-load.d/snd_aloop.conf
To enable the loop device on startup.
This gives me what i asked for.
Now to clean up my connections i use the config file (opened with nano as example):
nano ~/.config/wireplumber/wireplumber.conf.d/10-rename-devices.conf
and fill the contents with:
monitor.alsa.rules = [
{
matches = [
{
node.name = "alsa_output.platform-snd_aloop.0.analog-stereo"
}
]
actions = {
update-props = {
node.description = "AV Device (Playback)"
node.autoconnect = false
node.virtual = false
node.passive = true
priority.session = 200
priority.driver = 200
}
}
}
{
matches = [
{
node.name = "alsa_input.platform-snd_aloop.0.analog-stereo"
}
]
actions = {
update-props = {
node.description = "AV Device (Capture)"
node.autoconnect = false
node.virtual = true
node.passive = true
priority.session = 200
priority.driver = 200
}
}
}
{
matches = [
{
node.name = "alsa_output.platform-snd_aloop.1.analog-stereo"
}
]
actions = {
update-props = {
node.description = "AV Mic (Playin)"
node.autoconnect = false
node.virtual = true
node.passive = true
priority.session = 100
priority.driver = 100
}
}
}
{
matches = [
{
node.name = "alsa_input.platform-snd_aloop.1.analog-stereo"
}
]
actions = {
update-props = {
node.description = "AV Mic (Microphone)"
node.autoconnect = false
node.virtual = false
node.passive = true
priority.session = 100
priority.driver = 100
}
}
}
]
This will give me what i was looking for.
Sadly kdenlike is still not quite working, but that is just a kdenlive bug.
In theory this setup is correct (future reference).