KDE and Openbox issue

Hello Garuda users.

 ╰─λ garuda-inxi
System:
  Kernel: 5.17.9-zen1-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.1.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
    root=UUID=613626c9-9148-4cac-b1ca-b0c19a9b41c8 rw [email protected]
    quiet quiet splash rd.udev.log_priority=3 vt.global_cursor_default=0
    loglevel=3
  Desktop: Openbox v: 3.6.1 info: tint2 vt: 1 dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda Linux
    base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Pavilion Gaming Laptop 15-ec1xxx v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 87B2 v: 31.23 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI
    v: F.25 date: 08/18/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 45.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 45.1/45.1 Wh (100.0%)
    volts: 12.8 min: 11.6 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary type: Li-ion
    serial: N/A status: full cycles: 405
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 4600H with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Zen 2 family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x60 (96) stepping: 1
    microcode: 0x8600106
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB
    L3: 8 MiB desc: 2x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1488 high: 2017 min/max: 1400/3000 boost: enabled
    scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 2017 2: 1424
    3: 1543 4: 1570 5: 1509 6: 1397 7: 1419 8: 1394 9: 1397 10: 1397 11: 1397
    12: 1396 bogomips: 71867
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass
    mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1
    mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW,
    STIBP: conditional, RSB filling
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA TU117M [GeForce GTX 1650 Ti Mobile]
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: nvidia v: 515.43.04
    alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 515.xx+
    status: current (as of 2022-05) arch: Turing pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
    lanes: 8 link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: none
    empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1f95 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: AMD Renoir vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s ports:
    active: eDP-1 empty: none bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:1636
    class-ID: 0300
  Device-3: Quanta HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
    bus-ID: 3-3:2 chip-ID: 0408:5365 class-ID: 0e02
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.3 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.1
    compositor: Picom v: git-7e568 driver: X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia
    gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22")
    s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: Najing CEC Panda 0x0058 built: 2019
    res: 1920x1080 hz: 144 dpi: 142 gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64")
    diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 640x480
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD RENOIR (LLVM 13.0.1 DRM 3.44 5.17.9-zen1-1-zen)
    v: 4.6 Mesa 22.0.4 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 8 link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s
    lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:10fa class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: N/A alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_rn_pci_acp3x, snd_pci_acp5x,
    snd_pci_acp6x, snd_sof_amd_renoir
    pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
    bus-ID: 05:00.5 chip-ID: 1022:15e2 class-ID: 0480
  Device-3: AMD Family 17h/19h HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
    link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 05:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3
    class-ID: 0403
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.17.9-zen1-1-zen running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: no
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.51 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: eno1 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2723 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlo1 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 1-4:2 chip-ID: 8087:0029 class-ID: e001
  Report: bt-adapter ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: down
    bt-service: enabled,running rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes
    address: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 11.82 GiB (2.5%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Intel model: SSDPEKNW512G8H
    size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B
    speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: HPS0
    temp: 31.9 C scheme: GPT
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 226.68 GiB size: 226.68 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 11.79 GiB (5.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 100 MiB size: 96 MiB (96.00%)
    used: 26.5 MiB (27.6%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 226.68 GiB size: 226.68 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 11.79 GiB (5.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 226.68 GiB size: 226.68 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 11.79 GiB (5.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5
  ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 226.68 GiB size: 226.68 GiB (100.00%)
    used: 11.79 GiB (5.2%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 15.06 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
    dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 40.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 fan-2: 0
Info:
  Processes: 301 Uptime: 22m wakeups: 1 Memory: 15.06 GiB
  used: 2.35 GiB (15.6%) Init: systemd v: 250 tool: systemctl Compilers:
  gcc: 12.1.0 Packages: pacman: 1462 lib: 337 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16
  running-in: urxvt inxi: 3.3.16
Garuda (2.6.3-2):
  System install date:     2022-05-21
  Last full system update: 2022-05-22
  Is partially upgraded:   No
  Relevant software:       NetworkManager
  Windows dual boot:       Probably (Run as root to verify)
  Snapshots:               Snapper
  Failed units:   

I recently made a fresh install of Garuda KDE Dragonized on a new laptop, on launching a kde session everything seems to work fine and all applications work as intended but on using a openbox session kde based applications fail to open or work properly. I made sure everything was updated and additional kde components were installed.

Some some issues that are happening :

  • Applications likeBtrfs assistant does not launch and on launching through terminal it says application must be run as root, for some apps i can use sudo then application name to launch it but some applications cannot be launched like this.

  • KDE settings do not seem to work properly as none of the settings options even work.

  • Discover fails to display installed apps and KDE partition manager fails to load the Drive information.

Hopefully i can use openbox window manager with KDE as i really need to use some of the kde applications.

I hope someone can help you, but I am sorry to point out that changing the Window Manager is such an invasive action that it actually makes the system not officially supportable.
If you search for "openbox" in the forum you will also find old requests about it. Even the request was often to create an Openbox Edition, which says a lot about the complexity of the whole thing, in my opinion.
Anyway, I wish you good luck, maybe someone is using openbox in Garuda and/or will be able to help you.

PS: You see, e.g. inxi doesn't even recognize your system as KDE anymore:

And your compositor is now picom:

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Well i think there was a post of making Kde and Openbox work together on the Arch wiki but it is long gone now, i will wait for a bit more to see if others have an answer, TNE might be able to give some help hopefully.

If you are using a plain window manager session than the services that would normally run when KDE starts won't be running.

You can start those services manually or add them to the openbox startup, or if you're just trying to replace KWin with openbox then do that instead.

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curious - if using kde that uses kwin, whats the desire to use openbox instead ('cause it doesn't work with lots of things)? If its to use openbox, then lxqt works fine with it (although garuda lxqt also uses kwin by default, but openbox can replace it as the wm, but the "jazz" goes (hot corners and the like, etc because openbox has no compositing effects).

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How should i do that properly, could you please write the steps or provide a link to an article. And Thank you!

filo-02-sgs

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What you are attempting to do is not supported by the distro precisely for the reasons you have encountered. These types of setups often create complex problems that are not easy to diagnose/correct.

If you insist on going down this road be sure to install to two different user accounts. Also be sure to specify up front on all future forum support requests exactly what you have done if you wish to try to get help with a non-standard Garuda install.

Basically, you're on your own if you choose to deviate substantially from the standard Garuda install.

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