Hi i install garuda on my nvme ssd and every time i install package with (pacman -S) or (paru -S) its take snapshot of system i dont want that because thats reduce ssd life i want its take snapshot only when i upgrade or remove package i use defualt garuda snapper tool
Sure?
BTW: We missing you’re garuda-inxi.
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yes every snapshot write ~18GB or higher on ssd and when i write pacman -S package its create another snapshot so ssd life goes when you write on it
garuda-inxi
ystem:
Kernel: 6.5.8-zen1-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.1
clocksource: tsc available: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
root=UUID=5f7cd2f4-62d5-4315-a78d-67578cc7dcaa rw rootflags=subvol=@
splash nvidia-drm.modeset=1 nosgx rd.udev.log_priority=3
vt.global_cursor_default=0 loglevel=3 ibt=off
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.8 tk: Qt v: 5.15.11 wm: kwin_wayland vt: 1
dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
How do you check this?
And sorry, this is not the complete garuda-inxi.
Installing/using Timeshift instead of Snapper is not an option?
(I update packages, and after installing a new package, I manually create a new restore point. And I keep 3 restore points.)
they save o /.snapshots folder
full garuda-inxi
System:
Kernel: 6.5.8-zen1-1-zen arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.2.1
clocksource: tsc available: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/@/boot/vmlinuz-linux-zen
root=UUID=5f7cd2f4-62d5-4315-a78d-67578cc7dcaa rw rootflags=subvol=@
splash nvidia-drm.modeset=1 nosgx rd.udev.log_priority=3
vt.global_cursor_default=0 loglevel=3 ibt=off
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.8 tk: Qt v: 5.15.11 wm: kwin_wayland vt: 1
dm: SDDM Distro: Garuda Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire F5-573G v: V1.27
serial:
Mobo: Acer model: Captain_SK v: V1.27 serial:
UEFI: Insyde v: 1.27 date: 05/26/2017
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Core i7-6500U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake
gen: core 6 level: v3 note: check built: 2015 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
model-id: 0x4E (78) stepping: 3 microcode: 0xF0
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache:
L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB
L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 500 min/max: 400/3100 scaling: driver: intel_pstate
governor: powersave cores: 1: 500 2: 500 3: 500 4: 500 bogomips: 20799
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Vulnerabilities:
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9 process: Intel 14n built: 2015-16 ports:
active: DP-1,eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:1916
class-ID: 0300
Device-2: NVIDIA GM107 [GeForce 940MX] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
driver: nvidia v: 535.113.01 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 535.xx+
status: current (as of 2023-09) arch: Maxwell code: GMxxx
process: TSMC 28nm built: 2014-19 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 4
link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.0
chip-ID: 10de:179c class-ID: 0302
Device-3: Chicony HD WebCam driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 1-7:5 chip-ID: 04f2:b573
class-ID: 0e02
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.1
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia
unloaded: nouveau alternate: fbdev,intel,nv,vesa dri: iris
gpu: i915,nvidia d-rect: 3520x1080 display-ID: 0
Monitor-1: DP-1 pos: primary,left res: 1600x900 size: N/A modes: N/A
Monitor-2: eDP-1 pos: right res: 1920x1080 size: N/A modes: N/A
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel iris drv: nvidia platforms: device: 0
drv: nvidia device: 1 drv: iris device: 3 drv: swrast gbm: drv: iris
surfaceless: drv: nvidia wayland: drv: iris x11: drv: iris
inactive: device-2
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 23.2.1-arch1.2
glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2)
device-ID: 8086:1916 memory: 7.45 GiB unified: yes display-ID: :1.0
API: Vulkan v: 1.3.264 layers: 8 device: 0 type: integrated-gpu name: Intel
HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2) driver: mesa intel v: 23.2.1-arch1.2
device-ID: 8086:1916 surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland device: 1
type: discrete-gpu name: NVIDIA GeForce 940MX driver: nvidia v: 535.113.01
device-ID: 10de:179c surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland device: 2 type: cpu
name: llvmpipe (LLVM 16.0.6 256 bits) driver: mesa llvmpipe
v: 23.2.1-arch1.2 (LLVM 16.0.6) device-ID: 10005:0000
surfaces: xcb,xlib,wayland
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl,snd_soc_avs
bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: NVIDIA GM107 High Definition Audio [GeForce 940MX]
vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3
speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 4 link-max: lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1
chip-ID: 10de:0fbc class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.5.8-zen1-1-zen status: kernel-api with: aoss
type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: PipeWire v: 0.3.83 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
4: pw-jack type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
vendor: Lite-On driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
lanes: 1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:0042 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac:
Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1
speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 3000 bus-ID: 04:00.1 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
class-ID: 0200
IF: enp4s0f1 state: down mac:
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Lite-On Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8
type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 1-5:4
chip-ID: 04ca:3015 class-ID: e001
Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: bt-v: 4.2
lmp-v: 8 status: discoverable: no pairing: no class-ID: 7c010c
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.36 TiB used: 15.78 GiB (1.1%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung
model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial:
fw-rev: 2B2QEXM7 temp: 41.9 C scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: ST1000LM024 HN-M101MBB
size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: fw-rev: 0001 scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 144.02 GiB size: 144.02 GiB (100.00%)
used: 15.75 GiB (10.9%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 maj-min: 259:6
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 600 MiB size: 598.8 MiB (99.80%)
used: 28 MiB (4.7%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2
ID-3: /home raw-size: 144.02 GiB size: 144.02 GiB (100.00%)
used: 15.75 GiB (10.9%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 maj-min: 259:6
ID-4: /var/log raw-size: 144.02 GiB size: 144.02 GiB (100.00%)
used: 15.75 GiB (10.9%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 maj-min: 259:6
ID-5: /var/tmp raw-size: 144.02 GiB size: 144.02 GiB (100.00%)
used: 15.75 GiB (10.9%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 maj-min: 259:6
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 133 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 7.63 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
comp: zstd avail: lzo,lzo-rle,lz4,lz4hc,842 max-streams: 4 dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0 C pch: 48.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
Processes: 217 Uptime: 41m wakeups: 1 Memory: total: 8 GiB
available: 7.63 GiB used: 3.49 GiB (45.7%) Init: systemd v: 254
default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 13.2.1 Packages:
pm: pacman pkgs: 1495 libs: 416 tools: octopi,paru,pikaur Shell: fish
v: 3.6.1 default: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.30
Garuda (2.6.17-1):
System install date: 2023-10-16
Last full system update: 2023-10-22
Is partially upgraded: No
Relevant software: snapper NetworkManager dracut nvidia-dkms
Windows dual boot: Probably (Run as root to verify)
Failed units:
BTRFS is a modern, Copy-on-Write (CoW) filesystem for Linux, aimed at implementing advanced features while also focusing on fault tolerance, repair and easy administration. We use automatic snapshots out of the box.
That is not an answer for
I mean concrete, which commands you use?
CoW did not copy your hole system /, just the difference what change after/before the update.
If you remove this service, we will not be able to support you.
I think it has already been explained in detail here in the forum, but unfortunately I don’t have time to search it out for you.
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I think its this package doing the snapshots:
[🔴] × pacman -Qi snap-pac
Name : snap-pac
Version : 3.0.1-2
Description : Pacman hooks that use snapper to create pre/post btrfs snapshots like openSUSE's YaST
Architecture : any
URL : https://github.com/wesbarnett/snap-pac
Licenses : GPL
Groups : None
Provides : None
Depends On : snapper pacman btrfs-progs python
Optional Deps : None
Required By : snapper-support
Optional For : None
Conflicts With : None
Replaces : None
Installed Size : 35,76 KiB
Packager : Christian Hesse <[email protected]>
Build Date : Mi 07 Dez 2022 18:37:31 CET
Install Date : Di 17 Okt 2023 05:27:58 CEST
Install Reason : Installed as a dependency for another package
Install Script : Yes
Validated By : Signature
However, as pointed out, this does not actually copy/write anything to the SSD afaik. How would this even work, as snapshots are close to being instantly created? If storage space is a concern, tweak your settings via BTRFS assistant.
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i dont get that !?
The file i send was complete garuda-inxi
and yes it take snapshot of hole i system except(home) i send you screen shot of (.screenshot) folder in root i just install vokoscreen and some small package and i get this huge folder on root
delete your old snapshots and free up space.
Yeah , I use 50 GB for Hyprland and dolphin show me for .snapshot 83 Gb in use. So.
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this is not point. point is every time i install some thing it took snapshot of hole system so problem is garuda is install on my nvme ssd and ssd life depand on what you write on it
if can change something snapper take snapshot only when i write pacman -Syu or pacman -R is better because system most of time fail when you remove sometihing or upgrade something that was not ready
SSD’s made since 2007-08 have the same read/write durability as magnetic spinner drives.
thrashing your SSD should not be a concern.
also is the fact that snapshots are not images of the entire drive, it records changes to the drive only.
also is the fact that snapshots are not images of the entire drive, it records changes to the drive only.
ok if you say was true so
how this happend
look at address bar
file size reporting from the snapshots folder is always incorrect.
i have Garuda installed to a 40gb partition and have seen the file size report over 80gb in use, which is objectively impossible.
the older a snapshot is, the more space it takes due to packages being replaced with newer versions and the snapshot keeping the old one for restoration.
delete your old snapshots and quit getting your underwear bunched over read/writes.
i have a 14 year old SSD that is in perfect health. (Kingston ftw)
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this is my first use btrfs in garuda before i been in vanila arch with ext4 so dont have problem like this i use timeshift before and my backup was on my other drive encrypted
and thanks Miceal_joseph for your advice i use evo970 plus btw for all most 3 year so i dont want distroy my device for a backup
i run this
btrfs filesystem df /
and show
btrfs filesystem df /
Data, single: total=21.01GiB, used=14.61GiB
System, DUP: total=8.00MiB, used=16.00KiB
Metadata, DUP: total=1.00GiB, used=461.34MiB
GlobalReserve, single: total=47.89MiB, used=0.00B
you right about size of dolphin show wrong number when i check size of root folder on proprties its show 128Tib and thats in possible my root folder is 144Gib
so it can be snapshot like link of real file?
if not how i check size of .snapshots
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open snapper tools, make a manual snapshot and then delete the old snapshots you won’t need.
do this regularly.