Automount Drive and Trash conflict

Hello everyone.

After a couple of decades of using windows, I found that Ms has more than crossed the line I feel comfortable with. I have been trying different distros for the last month and, to date, Garuda is the one I like the most. However, there are a couple of problems I haven't been able to fix myself nor find a solution online, so I am asking for help.

I use two drives: I one I keep the O.S., aps and games. The other holds my data I need to keep between installs and or in case of OS failure. I'd like to mount its folders as my user folders (Documents, downloads, videos, music...) as I had on Windows and KDE allows it. However the setting is lost between restarts as the drive must be manually mounted. To fix this, I modified "fstab" so the disk is automatically mounted during start up, witch indeed allowed me to keep my wished folder structure.

However that brought a VERY annoying problem: when I used to mount the drive manually, it had its own .Trash folder where deleted files were moved as expected. Now, deleted files are instead copied to my main drive which take a lot of time (I work often with videos of around 100 Gb) and will devastate its lifespan as it is an SSD.

I tryed mounting the drive in fstab with the lines:

"UUID="4CAA6027AA600FAE"      /home/antonio/Datos   ntfs   defaults   0   0"
UUID="4CAA6027AA600FAE"      /run/media/antonio/WD10SPZX040SATA   ntfs   user

(this last one I write from memory so may not be 100% correct).

Both gibe me the same result (different mounting folders) the drive gets auto-mounted, my custom personal folders work, but the trashed files from the secondary drive are copied to the trash bin on the primary.

I even reinstalled clean today to no avail.

I beg for some help.

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Welcome :slight_smile:

Please read

Check if gnome-disk-utility could help.


If the disk does not have a trash, you can make one. As long as it follows these standards, it should work: Trash specification

I have never made one--typically I find they are there automatically--but since it sounds like you don't have one, some key notes to bear in mine while you make it:

  • The specification calls for trash to be named/located as $topdir/.Trash-$uid. Typically a trash on an external drive would be named .Trash-1000
  • The "sticky bit" in the permissions must be applied, and all users who need to use the trash will obviously need write access
  • The trash directory itself should have two directories within, files/ and info/.

As long as you set up your trash directory correctly, according to the specifications, my impression is that it should work without additional configuration. Whatever file explorer you are using should be checking automatically for topdir/.Trash and using it according to the trash specifications if found.

Alternatively, you could look into one of these trash management programs to help you: Trash management - ArchWiki


Thank you very much for your answer.

That one was one of the possible solutions I tried before posting. You see, the Trash folder existed all the time. It worked before setting the auto-mount, didn't work with auto-mount enabled and once set back to manual, it worked again -some times-

Of course, it could be just me failing to apply the solution properly due to my noobness, so I'm not discrediting your method. It just didn't work for me.

Thanks for your answer.

It seems that gnome-disk-utility was what I needed. It also modified the fstab, but added a few more parameters that might be what was missing for the OS to apply the desired settings.

Best regards.

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